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First Day of School...(pics)

Terry Cox Aug 31, 2004 05:14 AM

Yesterday I went back to work in Presque Isle Co, MI, right on Lake Huron. Since our school is having contract probs, we decided to all leave school during the lunch period. I went down to the park to eat my lunch and stared at this all the while...

Just wanted to put us in the right flavor, since I'd be herping near here later.

It was a pretty nice day yesterday, a rarity this summer in n. MI. So, I decided to check some of my herping spots after school. Next is a pic of my Butler's garter spot, but it's been unproductive for the last two years. I think it's starting to get overgrown...

I didn't see any snakes at all at this spot. Maybe it was too cold near the lake. But, in general, the Eastern garters are out-competing the Butler's here.

Finally, I stopped at my favorite small stream on the way home to see if any Eastern massasaugas were out. The temperatures are usually lots better further inland and yesterday it was around 66*F, pretty good if you're looking under cover.

In an old field I've been going to for over twenty years, I found some old cover that has lasted for yrs. The massasaugas were not out, however, so no babies, and I wasn't able to tell if they'd dropped any babies, yet. But I did see quite a few E. garters with lots of babies, a few red-belly snakes, one green snake, and under an old truck tire, a couple of E. milksnkakes. One milk was very blue, but the other was suitable for pics, so I tried to get one I could show. Unfortunately, it the sun was pretty low by the time I took this one. Notice the aberrant pattern...

The pattern is broken up into spots and lines in places, and also the blotches tend to go all the way onto the belly in places, unusual for milks in MI. I like this site because it has produced some milks that look a little like snakes from much further west. I brought this snake home in hopes of getting some better pics and studying the pattern some more, so I may post more on this later. Have a good day all...

TC

Replies (6)

terryp Aug 31, 2004 05:04 PM

Thanks for the post Terry. I love to see habitat pics so it relates to some of the species we see. Some of the best places that I herp were shown to me and I didn't expect them to have that much. I'm still amazed at the diversity of habitat and environment in a small area around whitewater canyon and verbenia which produces so many different species. The pattern on the milksnake is unusual as you pointed out. Very interesting. I'm going to go out over the next several weeks and hopefully see some of the babies that were produced in the wild this year.

Terry Parks

Terry Cox Aug 31, 2004 08:17 PM

Thanks, Mr. Parks. It is about habitat most of the time. I went to my rattlesnake spot again tonight which are few and far between. Unfortunately I didn't see any of those black snappers. But I did see three more milksnakes. I guess my massasauga spot is also a milksnake spot. One of the milksnakes was worth showing, so I brought it home for pics. Hopefully I'll have time tomorrow to do that. Here's one of the massas I saw earlier this summer...

Sometimes when you flip a blotched snake at a massasauga spot you have to study it before grabbing. Massasaugas, milksnakes, n. water snakes, and e. hognose snakes all look alike at first glance

TC

hikerguy15 Sep 01, 2004 10:14 AM

where in michigan are you finding those massassaugas? iv been looking from years but havent found any. please help!

Obediah2 Aug 31, 2004 06:07 PM

I am a teacher here in Southern California and I went back yesterday also. My entire summer has been split between looking for snakes and playing volleyball on the beach. I think that is not a garter snake habitiat it is my habitat!

Thanks for the pics.

Jake

Ratsnake Haven Aug 31, 2004 06:50 PM

Thanks, beach volleyball dude. Hope you had a good first day back. Mine went well. I have a new room, got my computer set up and hooked to the internet. Got the printer hooked up to the school printer. Back in business, eh?

TC

hikerguy15 Sep 01, 2004 10:10 AM

what part of mich did you find those milks?

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