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who posted about force feeding mouse/rat tails? -msg

koashmar Sep 01, 2004 12:40 PM

I need some help - I work at a petstore that really strives to take good care of our animals. We have an exotice animal vet that up until now has been very very good. We recently acquired 3 young central american boas that will not eat. They seem otherwise active and healthy. I have them seperated (to monitor feces, etc...) and in a seperate, quiet room. One has been there for two months and has been in and out of the vets office. They finally diagnosed them as "poor doer's" and sent them back to us! Useless diagnosis!

I remembered about a gentle method of force feeding by using mouse tails for baby corns that was posted on here not too long ago. I have been cutting the tails off F/T rats and feeding those the way it was demonstrated (except I feed so the hair lies flat when going down.) Anyway, is this going to be nutricious enough or do I need to try to force feed a solid pinkie or fuzzie. They are fuzzie sized snakes - perhaps 12 - 16 inches long. I fed them each a rat tail last friday, and then again yesterday eve. They are keeping them down and not regurgitating and their droppings seem normal.

Please don't slam petstores - this store has spent more money trying to help these snakes than they're even worth, so give them some credit. But now that the vet has given up on them, I am hoping that over time, they will start eating on their own. All our other snakes (red tailed boas included) are fantastic eaters and very healthy. These CA boas never ate from day one. Any advice would be great. They are obviously not going to be for sale until they're eating regularly (perhaps never at all - I may end up just adopting them and giving it a go), so lenghtly care is no big deal. We will try just about anything at this point.

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Amanda E Sep 01, 2004 01:51 PM

I think it was Marcel Poots who posted that.

If you can feed a whole prey item that would be best. I do remember there being a discussion here or on another forum saying that tails will give some sustenance, not much, but obviously better than nothing.

I'd try to force feed a mouse pinky. If that works, obviously stick with it. If not, just keep using rat tails until they are bigger to handle the force fed whole prey.
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koashmar Sep 01, 2004 05:06 PM

down one of their mouths, he acted as though I was gagging him. What is the risk factor regarging damaging their mouth/etc...when forcing something of substance down it?

Thanks again for the reply.

crtoon83 Sep 01, 2004 10:51 PM

I am glad to hear there are some good pet shops out there (like the one you work in). I, myself, have worked in the pet trade before, and sadly the stores I worked in were not as caring. I have said before in another post all the horrors that I witnessed in both stores, I don't think anyone wants me to go back into them...lol. Sadly not all pet stores are as good to the animals as yours are...but you do need to understand if someone talks poorly about pet stores in general or a particular pet store it is NOT a personal attack against you, or your place of employment. I am only defending this because as I said I have first hand witnessed the terrible conditions some animals are kept under.
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Gargoyle420 Sep 01, 2004 10:55 PM

Nics should be big enough to force feed a pink.Ive had ball pythons take pinks just by getting them started in there mouths.
I had a huge wc ball python as a first pet.She didnt eat for over a year.I was worried about force feeding and hurting her.
After several futile attemps I got mad and used a dang pencil to get a mouse down far enough so she couldnt spit it out.After I got the first mouse down I could gently force another down.It took months of doing it this way before she started eating on her own.If your more comfortable using tails use jumbo rat tails.There easy to slide in and put down.Put the fat end in first...Good luck...Paul

Marcel Poots Sep 02, 2004 11:22 AM

I do that to trigger the feeding responce. It was this Pewter. She started eating voluntarily after that assistfeeding.

Here she eats a hamster pup head. (Because I had no hamster pinks)


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