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Here's the scoop:
Mom: Amel proven het anery
Dad: Hypo proven het Anery

Clutch: 12 normals, 3 amels, 1 snow, 2 "oddballs"

No aneries, no hypos.

Any guesses?

closer pic...

And here's an amel from the same clutch for color ref.

I won't be online again until next tuesday, but by then hopefully these guys will have shed and I'll post more pics.
Thanks,
Kris
in Mtl.

I know you didn't mention the possibility of lavender in the parents genes, but it looks like an opal to me.

But the greater likelihood is that it is just a regular amel that hasn't developed it's colors yet. Wait a few sheds and I bet it looks more like the other amel you have there.
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alstiver@hotmail.com

3.3.13 cornsnakes
8 cornsnake eggs

...it's most likely an amel that just hasn't had its colors come in yet. From what I've heard, they don't turn out looking any different from any other amel out there. Should be a fun coloration change to watch.

(I don't think it's an opal... it doesn't have the opal 'hatchling' colors...)

-Kat
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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

I also think it's likely a late blooming amel, that will "color up" in a few sheds. However, there is one other possibility that I might suggest. If Dad is a hypo, and the clutch contained snows (can't recall how many, sorry), then is it possible that Mom is het for hypo, and they produced a couple of coral snows?

Statistically, I realize the unlikelihood of having two triple homozygous animals in such a small clutch. Even so, it might explain what you are seeing, and once all of the possibilities and impossibilities have been eliminated, the unlikely is all that is left.

I'd still think amel, until proven otherwise, though. Keep us posted on the progress after a few sheds!
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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

first thought was opal too....but I would say...no..I hatched 40 opals this year and never saw one like that....

hypo and amel?....looks like motley too.....but hypo and amel = sunglow...brighter oranges and reds..this is lighter oranges and reds.........hypo snow?......hypo snow motley is what it looks like.......LOL.........

hey...I know....keep it and see.......keep us posted with bi-monthly pics.........

........JY
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.....wow....you people....really.....you are exactly like I thought.........

............right?

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n/p
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Sincerely,
Jason
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www.members.aol.com/northeastsnakes

. . . a beautiful and deeply colored reverse Okeetee. I used to call these "Bell" albinos. I had a line from Kim Bell that started out like this. Literally in just a few sheds, they'll look almost exactly like typical reverse Okeetees. By the time they're adults, they'll be the deepest orange animals you have and those white markings will no longer be white.

Rainwater had these on his site too. He didn't name them other than to say they were not typical albinos. He claimed they started out like oversprayed snows and ended up more typically albinos.

I'm sure that's what you have there as I still hatch one now and then and in a few months you can't tell them apart from the other albinos other than they seem to be the most intensely colored adults. Just the opposite of how they start out.

Don
www.cornsnake.NET
South Mountain Reptiles

Show us pix of this snake in the next few months. If I'm right and this one is like my "Bell" line, you'll see drastic and quick morphological changes. Unlike other snakes that take a year to change, these change relatively quickly.

Don
www.cornsnake.NET
South Mountain Reptiles

Just got back from out of town...

Thanks everyone for the thoughts and replies, the lil buggers still haven't shed yet, but I'll definitely post more pics as they grow.

Thanks Don, that's some very interesting insight there. The parents are both insanely brightly colored, so really that makes the most sense.

I'll keep everyone posted!
Kris