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Breeding weight/age???

FireDrake Sep 02, 2004 07:36 PM

At what weight, or age can a female honduran be bred? And a male? Could a yearling male breed?
Thanks!
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FireDrake

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Replies (9)

tigerhou21 Sep 03, 2004 02:02 AM

I know someone said 300 gram for female, but I really think that is too small to breed. Some female honduran can grow up to 1000 gram or more. I only breed my female at only more than 400 gram, and must be a good feeder also, or I will wait for one more year.
Thank.
Eric

Pondoris Sep 03, 2004 09:47 AM

I would like to hear others experiences/recommendations in reference to adequate breedng size of both male and female hondurans.

Thanks,
Ian Daviss

MarcB Sep 03, 2004 11:10 AM

A 350 gr. female will breed at that size! But why breed so small and risk egg binding/retention with all the subsequent problems...

As Eric previously mentioned, females routinely hit 1000 gr. and more, wait the extra year or two and get more and bigger eggs!

I see and hear people say ''Oh my! I didn't get any snow out of my 4 eggs!'' I wonder why!

Aim for 600 gr. for females and you will have no problem, why rush, too many dwarf hondurans out there....

rtdunham Sep 04, 2004 05:22 PM

My goal is for females to be at least 400 grams going into the cooler the previous fall, which results in females at least 500-600 grams by the time they're breeding.

However...

I got an anery a year or so ago that was sold to me as a proven breeder and arrived not skinny, but weighing around 250 grams. I figured i'd been taken. But she was under 300 grams this spring, if i recall correctly, and still bred.

I remember once a fella brought a double het for snow by the house to show me, appeared to have average body weight for her length, but she was well under 300 grams. I admired her but told him, "you know, she's gonna be too small to breed next year."

"Heck," he told me, "she bred THIS year." I wiped some egg off my face. A mutual friend later confirmed the prior year breeding.

So imho, over 400 might be a nice goal for a minimum starting weight, but these animals are capable of a lot we don't give them credit for. As is the case with people, there's more to it than just age and weight. (Does anyone think there aren't husky, "healthy", guys in their 20s seeking help at fertility clinics? Is there any question kids abhorrently young and scrawny father/mother kids sometimes?)

I realize the goal is HEALTHY reproduction--both for the offspring and the parents. I'm just saying there's optimal, and there's a range outside optimal that may be equally "normal" to the snake but surprising to us.

Thoughts worth what you paid for them!

peace
terry

theselectserpent Sep 04, 2004 08:12 PM

Terry I think your thoughts are well spoken and much appreciated. You can't pigeon hole every snake out there. I know this may sound funny but my collection is still small enough that I kinda get to know my snakes. They all have differant temperaments and you have to go with your observations of the snakes activities and general well being. IMO

Matt

shannon brown Sep 05, 2004 01:08 PM

Matt,
Your correct,I let the female decide when she is border line.I had a anery female that was possible het hypo this year that I wasn't planning on breeding.Well she ovulated and I figured she was going to throw slugs anyway so I put her in with my ghost male.She was about 315 grams and laid three big nice eggs.All three hatched out ghosts?

Anyways,I had two others breed that I hadn't planned on just cause they decided to to it thereselfs.

Later shannon

theselectserpent Sep 05, 2004 10:29 PM

Yeah Shannon I had a hypo female that was on the bubble but ate heavy and was at 370 grams at ovulation and I just could'nt see her going through the process only to lay slugs. She laid 5 eggs 3 remained good and are due to hatch any day. Thanks for your input!

Matt

tigerhou21 Sep 06, 2004 02:25 AM

There is a special case. I have a female honduran didn't cool down last winter, and laid 5 good eggs. Is that mean you will not cool down all your female honduran this year?

Eric

Pondoris Sep 07, 2004 04:37 PM

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