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OK Another one for you (this time with pics)

Lyn Sep 02, 2004 09:48 PM

I have a snake that was sold to my friend as a Normal Corn. My friend thought she had odd coloring and didn't look like a pure corn, but she posted pics on the Corn Forum and they said looked like a Normal Corn to them, just with odd coloration. She offered the snake to me, and I thought from the pictures she sent that she was beautiful. She shipped her to me, and from the first time I laid eyes on her in person, she just did not seem to be a pure Corn to me. That's actually why she gave her to me. She didn't want to breed her if she wasn't 100% sure she was pure. She has the "painted head" effect that my Yellow/Everglades Ratsnake has. She has an odd head pattern that I've not seen in Corns. She lacks the typical Corn circles on her neck. She also has very faint stripes if you look at her right, more typical in a Rat than a Corn (yes, I know a Corn is a Rat, or at least used to be, the new taxonomy still has me a bit baffled). And her coloring is odd for a pure Corn. I sure would love to hear your thoughts...

Replies (7)

chrish Sep 02, 2004 10:22 PM

The pattern on her head is a little blurred, but that could be the result of an old injury. Otherwise, she looks like a perfectly normal (although somewhat drab) cornsnake.
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Chris Harrison

Greg Longhurst Sep 03, 2004 07:53 AM

I agree with Chris. That's a corn. The spearpoint on the head is there, it's just faded a bit.

~~Greg~~

Everlight389 Sep 03, 2004 10:44 AM

Looks like a normal corn that got smacked on the head... or had some strange ageing coloration changes.
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Current Collection:
0.1 Antherystic elaphe guttata guttata - Corn Snake
1.0 Elaphe vulpina gloydi - Eastern Fox Snake
0.1 Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta - Black Rat Snake
0.1 Leucistic elaphe obsoleta Linheimeri - Texas Ratsnake
1.1 Morelia spilotac cheyni - Jungle Carpet Python
0.1 Tiliqau scincoide - Blue Tongue Skink

rearfang Sep 03, 2004 01:36 PM

Not that unusual...I have seen snakes similar to that before out of the everglades.

Frank
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Everlight389 Sep 03, 2004 02:04 PM

There was a scientific name for it... was it ontigenic? Can't think of it and it's bothering me
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Current Collection:
0.1 Antherystic elaphe guttata guttata - Corn Snake
1.0 Elaphe vulpina gloydi - Eastern Fox Snake
0.1 Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta - Black Rat Snake
0.1 Leucistic elaphe obsoleta Linheimeri - Texas Ratsnake
1.1 Morelia spilotac cheyni - Jungle Carpet Python
0.1 Tiliqau scincoide - Blue Tongue Skink

chrish Sep 03, 2004 04:21 PM

ontogenetic changes are those changes that an organism undergoes throughout its lifetime.

A characteristic that an organism gets by accident is usually considered an acquired characteristic rather than an ontongenetic change. These are the characters than Lamarck considered to be heritable. Of course, he was wrong.

An ontogenetic change would be more like the changes an embryo goes through or even puberty or senescence.
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Chris Harrison

Everlight389 Sep 03, 2004 04:37 PM

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Current Collection:
0.1 Antherystic elaphe guttata guttata - Corn Snake
1.0 Elaphe vulpina gloydi - Eastern Fox Snake
0.1 Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta - Black Rat Snake
0.1 Leucistic elaphe obsoleta Linheimeri - Texas Ratsnake
1.1 Morelia spilotac cheyni - Jungle Carpet Python
0.1 Tiliqau scincoide - Blue Tongue Skink

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