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confusion about Yellowbellys - PIC

evers310 Sep 03, 2004 08:31 AM

I keep hearing descriptions and pics of yellowbellys but I'm still having a hard time telling what exactly they are supposed to look like. This is a male I have that I thought could possibly be one. What does everyone think? also, if someone could explain the exact traits of a yellowbelly.

thanks,

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lilroach56 Sep 03, 2004 08:47 AM

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evers310 Sep 03, 2004 08:54 AM

sorry, I wasn't clear. I'm asking what are the specific traits used to identify a yellowbelly. I know they are supposed to have a somewhat checkerboard pattern alond the sides of the belly and a white/yellow belly with no black in it. the snake I have pictured above seems to fit that description.

morton Sep 03, 2004 09:01 AM

not a yellow belly

evers310 Sep 03, 2004 09:04 AM

Ok thanks. What exactly makes him not a yellowbelly? What specific markers am I looking for? I've seen pics of yellowbellys before but for some reason I just cant seem to spot what makes them so. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

lilroach56 Sep 03, 2004 09:17 AM

It has to be the daughter or son of an Ivory (all offspring yellow belly) or a non normal daugter or son of another yellowbelly.
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1.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, and Bear)

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evers310 Sep 03, 2004 09:29 AM

Yes I understand where yellowbellys come from and what they produce. What I am asking is how can you physically look a a ball and tell if it's a yellowbelly or not.

gone_balls_crazy Sep 03, 2004 09:55 AM

Look down the page where it says "My new yellow belly." The second pic that Warren posted is of a true yellow belly. The granite looking sides and a yellow belly.

evers310 Sep 03, 2004 10:13 AM

thanks, there seems to be quite a bit of confusion about what a true yellowbelly is. I just wanted to make sure this guy is just a normal because I'm about to sell him. I'd hate to sell a $30k snake for a normal price!

Thanks again.

RandyRemington Sep 03, 2004 10:22 AM

Just looking at pics it seems to me that the yellow bellies have a wider white (sometimes with mottled yellow) belly. Yours barley has the dark excluded from the big scale down the middle. Looking at Graziani's excellent picture you will see that the dark checkerboards are mostly excluded from all three belly scales. Also yours has rather large (normal) checks and not the small broken up checks congregated at the edge of the yellow belly pics I've seen.

I'm a little unclear of what the sides should look like but perhaps the bands starting to widen again down near the belly with fading in the middle is something to look for. I've got even less of a feel for if there are dorsal pattern traits or what they should look like.

evers310 Sep 03, 2004 10:33 AM

thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for. That clears a lot up for me. I can see those differences in them now.

RinL Sep 03, 2004 01:09 PM

belly
belly pic

RinL Sep 03, 2004 01:11 PM

dorsal pic
dorsal pic

RandyRemington Sep 03, 2004 02:50 PM

Is there something unusual about the dorsal pattern or color you can point out?

RinL Sep 03, 2004 04:00 PM

it doesn't show well in the picture but the yellows are very yellow, at least on mine. however, i don't think that is the defining characteristic. i think it is the clear belly and the ususual pattern adjacent to it. someone with more experience with them may have a better answer. Rin

anthony james mc Sep 04, 2004 01:44 PM

Very nice Pic!!! Congrats , that is a YB for sure!!! Anthony McCain-McCain's Reptiles.

cmh7s Sep 03, 2004 02:26 PM

I'm not very familiar with this morph. This is the het pheno for ivory as I understand it from the posts? Can anyone refer me to some good pictures of the ivory morph? Thanks.
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evers310 Sep 03, 2004 02:42 PM

http://ballpython.com/morph.php?morph=ivory

anthony james mc Sep 04, 2004 01:40 PM

I would say that is not a yellow belly, it lacks the side blushing, shatter pattern all the way down the sides of the belly , needs to be patternless on the actual belly (a tiny speck here or there is acceptable) and needs to have yellow patches randomly on it's belly. Anthony McCain-McCain's Reptiles.

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