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Why is it that breeders set inflated prices only to discount by 40% or more behing closed doors. Are there that many tiny brained fish in the ocean.

No need to mention the breeder, I've witnessed one of the big guns in the industry bi.ch and complain about another setting an all time low price on a certain mutation only to have him sell me this same mutation a month earlier at an even lower price then he was b.tching about.

Is there too much greed, are the pieces of the pie getting smaller and smaller, is supply slowly outweighing demand.

Are prices set according to this fake market ONLY to make sure to get a decent return on investment.

Make sure to call everyone with that mutation available, you might be very surprised what a wad of pure cash can get you..

you got that right.....
I heard that a Mojave was traded even up for a xanthics ball male. Interesting?
Also some sell cheap in bulk to others and they resell them! Take time ask around.....
Just look at the spider market......a breeder told me he received a pair for 9k......Nice to know after I bought one this year. I do not know if these statements are fact or not. Just what I heard.....
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RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

If my memory servers me correctly, I saw a spider BP for $6,000 obo in the classifieds. This is the cheapest I have seen one. I expected they would come down a bit, but it is starting to happen more rapidly then I had expected. May I ask what you paid for your spider? Trying to keep up with this insane market.

Todd
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1.1 Balls - Male het/albino, Female 66% het/albino
***Fingers crossed for next season!!!***

More than 13k for my male.
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RicK @ BbI

Ball Boutique,Inc.
The home of the singing snakes!

Still at least yours is borderline breeder now. I'm thinking that even if they really did go from $13K to $4.5K it was still a good deal to get one a year earlier as you can produce a year sooner. Maybe next year they will be $3K and with 50% odds on co-dominants it still shouldn't be too hard for you to produce the original $13K worth the first year. Of course it will probably also work well for the people who buy this year for $4.5K and will be selling in 06 for $1.5K. The part that sucks is that if it wasn't for price fixing you probably would not have seen so large a drop this year but rather a more even/steady drop. I think that price fixing creates more risk and suspicion in the industry and real free market prices would still provide profit and people could do the real analysis on their own without having to second guess the prices things really sell at. Who knows, the extra confidence might even raise the price that large numbers actually move at.

Co-Doms will continue to drop!

Everything will, just some will take longer than others.
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Chad Bachman

And when your talking about thousands of dollars something that HOLDS it value longer is a better deal. Plain and simple more return on your investment!

I'm pretty sure I could make more off of 1 male & 5 female pastels, than 1.1 albino balls???
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Chad Bachman

That was supposed to mean, breeding 1 male pastel to 5 normal females, will on average bring you more $$ than breeding 1.1 albinos in a years time.
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Chad Bachman

IMHO even with the quicker drop of incomplete dominant morphs (per the discussion above that co-dominant is not the correct term) your return potential might be better than recessive. Especially if you have a bunch of big normal females and are a small breeder who would have a hard time selling non visible recessive hets. A spider male is high on my list of things to purchase when my snake fund meets the going price.