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can't even remember the bills he sponsors? if you will vote for Kerry than you do.
here is your story
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Or better yet, one who RECKLESSLY rushes us into war? You can air out all of Kerrys dirty laundry, I agree it is stinky. If by your comment your suggesting Bush's smells any better, you dont have both eyes open...
~SoBeK~
what do you mean by recklessly?
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Bush sent us to war against Iraq based on what has turned out to be false information and suspisions rather than hard evidence and then chose to ignore the advice from the other countrys that didn't buy into it as well as the United Nations.
A more prudent President would have waited a bit longer to confirm the validity of that information instead of openly campaigning for a war based on that false informant and no concrete evidence at all of WMD's.
Even if you want to accept the 20 cannisters that Rodney brought up, these did not turn up till over a year after we went to war so they cannot be considered as part of the decision making evidence at the time the decision was made.
SOBEK is right. The decision for war (in Iraq)was reckless and very premature.
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
"Bush sent us to war against Iraq based on what has turned out to be false information and suspisions rather than hard evidence and then chose to ignore the advice from the other countrys that didn't buy into it as well as the United Nations." Al Samoud 2 and Scud missiles (both of which were found and/or used) were both in Violation of resolution 1441. We followed through on INTERNATIONAL LAW by invading Iraq. 1441 promised harsh consequences the french, germans, chinese, russians, and any other country that signed 1441 did not follow through on their promise. We merely did what we were required to do by Law. The UN security council signed 1441, therebye (sp?) saying they thought Iraq had banned weapons and WMD to.
"A more prudent President would have waited a bit longer to confirm the validity of that information instead of openly campaigning for a war based on that false informant and no concrete evidence at all of WMD's." WMD were USED against USA troops. Scud missiles (3 times allowed range) were USED against USA troops. Al samoud 2 missiles were FOUND (yes they were banned also). USA planes were being shot at in a zone where they were PROMISED safety. A country that fires on USA troops that are in a SAFE ZONE is declaring war on the USA. We merely waited to long to declare war back.
"Even if you want to accept the 20 cannisters that Rodney brought up, these did not turn up till over a year after we went to war so they cannot be considered as part of the decision making evidence at the time the decision was made." It doesn't matter when the WMD were used/found. Iraq had them, lied about it, then they were USED on USA troops. WMD were found, 1441 WAS violated (not to mention countless other UN sanctions), and USA troops were SHOT AT in a SAFE ZONE (before the war). What more reason can you ask for? The sad thing is that Iraq wasn't invaded earlier, Iraqi troops have been firing at USA planes flying in a SAFE ZONE for years. What more of a declaration of war can you ask for from a country?
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Like you said..they have been doing it for years. So why is now so special?
And if scuds are the deadly WMD's me thinks they be overrated....
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
now is special because we have a president who will stick up for the american soldiers being shot at.
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Is that what you call it? Ron Reagan did the same without getting us bogged down in tribal wars.....
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
one of the best presidents in the History of the USA. God rest his soul.
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The decisioon to wage war against a foreign country was:
a)Reckless and ill conceived.
b) Reactionary in nature
c) Costly to the American public allready reeling from a mini recession.
d)Costly to the members of the armed forces who willing gave their lives to invade and ocupy this country.
e)Costly to the families of these armed soldiers
f)Costly to the United states in terms of WORLD WIDE(Read:global) P.R...The U.S. no longer has the sympathy it once had immedialtely post 9-11. Thats an understatement.
g) Unfair to the troops involved, they lacked ESSENTIAL components of both clothing and military gear to protect themselves..at the same time Bush cut Veterans benefits at home.
h)And perhaps worst of all...no EXIT astrategy for the brave men and women that currently sit in the 120 degree heat wondering if today will be their last day on earth...in that hell hole.
Relecting Bush is not an option.
Pressure Kerry to bring the troops home
NOW..
Sincerely,
Fred A.
a)Reckless and ill conceived.
Ill concieved? how?
b) Reactionary in nature
Reactionary? of course it was. Why wouldn't it be reactionary to start war on a country that declared war on us 10 years ago.
c) Costly to the American public allready reeling from a mini recession.
That part i can agree with, it is costly. But it is a debt well used. I don't want soldiers being shot at in a safe zone, if they are being shot at we should have (a long time ago) shot back at them, but we didn't. So now it is time to shoot back.
d)Costly to the members of the armed forces who willing gave their lives to invade and ocupy this country.
I feel for those who have and will lose their lives in Iraq. But, if they didn't want to be put in a situation where they might be injured and god forbid die, they wouldn't have joined the US armed forces.
e)Costly to the families of these armed soldiers
So was every other war, ever fought in the history of mankind. What about the families who had to constantly worry about their sons and daughters being shot at in a "safe" zone? do you not care about what they have felt?
f)Costly to the United states in terms of WORLD WIDE(Read:global) P.R...The U.S. no longer has the sympathy it once had immedialtely post 9-11. Thats an understatement.
I don't understand why we need the sympathy. the UN agreed that Iraq had WMD (which were found and USED). The UN agreed that if Iraq didn't comply to 1441 (which they didn't) Iraq would suffer dire consequences. And every member of the UN security council KNEW the consequences would be an invasion. Except when Iraq DID break 1441 Iraq was treated like a child who was not sharing, far from the promise in 1441.
g) Unfair to the troops involved, they lacked ESSENTIAL components of both clothing and military gear to protect themselves..at the same time Bush cut Veterans benefits at home.
They didn't have the supplies when they left the US, but they sure as hell had them while they were in Iraq. If they didn't the death toll would be at least 3 times as much as it is now.
h)And perhaps worst of all...no EXIT astrategy for the brave men and women that currently sit in the 120 degree heat wondering if today will be their last day on earth...in that hell hole.
Exit strategy? if we exit Iraq now the whole Middle East will be turned into one giant hell. Iraq will be in civil war, middle eastern countries will try to get some part of Iraq. and Thousands upon thousands of Iraqi civillians will die an unessacary (sp?) death.
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Responding to a ten year old declaration of war is like kissing your bride a decade after the wedding...A bit late to be justified as spontainius.
As to exit strategey....Entering a conflict without a real idea of what you expect to accomplish or how long you intend to stay after achieving your orrigional objective is DUMB.
The story there was to Remove Saddam and end his threat by establishing a new government. Now we are footing the bill for rebuilding that country while our economy is trashed....First it was to be an occupation of around six months...now they talk of four years....DUMB....DUMB!!
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
you can't establish a new government when the political "parties" (now i am refering to the rebellious clerics) are shooting at each other, the troops, and civillians.
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If you look at the history of certain nations (like Ireland Isreal, the whole middle east...etc....) you find that there is no time when things are stable. If you read the history of the region you will understand why it is such a quagmire in Iraq and why it was a mistake to stay there after we won.
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
yup, some places will constantly be unstable. But leaving Iraq would be the worst decision any president could make now. We have done to much to leave now.
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Not the case. History shows us that what will happen. Allready we are not viewed by many as liberators...we will become the occupying force and then the enemy as they tire of us being there. Eventually we will have to leave (after way too long a stay) and then the old tribal wars will take over as they have for over 2,000 years.
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
Can't pronounce Nuclear weapons? (lol)
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
Has a head larger than the doorway? (seriously though, Kerry's head is HUGE)
keep this going.
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to participate it must alternate between bush and kerry.
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has to have the questions in advance and still fumbles the response.
EP
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1 cal. king
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1 w. hognose
1 bearded dragon
2 fish
1 rat
1 mouse
5 cats
He's Herman Munster...(sigh) so true....But then I look at Bush and wonder where Larry and Curly went.....
A beauty pagent this ain't......(lol)
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
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