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Breeding consensus....

jeff favelle Sep 07, 2004 11:39 PM

I see that all you wonderful Boa breeders seem to have babies at all times of the year, especially those that work with Bcc's! First off, congrats! I love seeing all the great pics!

I only work with and breed Bci boas (Hogs and morphs), but I've always just bred them like I do my Rainbows. You know, cycle them for 2 months (December/January), introduce the male during cycling or soon after, and then wait for babies that summer.

But how are people getting babies now? Just a late litter? How are people getting mating pics? Do they not bother cycling? Are they in the Southern Hemisphere where winter is summer and up is down and.....etc etc? I have realized over the years that boas are not as formulic as pythons when it comes to breeding, but I just wanted to get a general consensus on what everyone does to be successful at it. I'm not about to change my methods, but seeing as the forums are RARELY a place for the free exchange of advanced information, I thought this might be a great topic to get going!

Thanks all in advance. And keep the pics flowin'!! You all ROCK!


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Replies (7)

LordDreyfus Sep 08, 2004 05:38 AM

I don't know about redtails yet..but my kenyans never have babies until Oct. I don't cycle them. The house just normally drops in temp for a little while in the winter. They get natural sunlight through a window in the room. I live in KY, but I don't think that has anything to do with it....hope that helps any.

>>I see that all you wonderful Boa breeders seem to have babies at all times of the year, especially those that work with Bcc's! First off, congrats! I love seeing all the great pics!
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>>I only work with and breed Bci boas (Hogs and morphs), but I've always just bred them like I do my Rainbows. You know, cycle them for 2 months (December/January), introduce the male during cycling or soon after, and then wait for babies that summer.
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>>But how are people getting babies now? Just a late litter? How are people getting mating pics? Do they not bother cycling? Are they in the Southern Hemisphere where winter is summer and up is down and.....etc etc? I have realized over the years that boas are not as formulic as pythons when it comes to breeding, but I just wanted to get a general consensus on what everyone does to be successful at it. I'm not about to change my methods, but seeing as the forums are RARELY a place for the free exchange of advanced information, I thought this might be a great topic to get going!
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>>Thanks all in advance. And keep the pics flowin'!! You all ROCK!
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Mark Damico Sep 08, 2004 07:56 AM

For boids, I breed BCC exclusively. All of my litters have been born from mid sept to late october. I don't put my pairs together til around Feb 1. In my experience with BCC the courtship process is a very long one that usually lasts several months. All of my observed ovulations have occurred from mid may to early June. Again that's after putting pairs together on or around Feb 1.

BCC courtship for me has been a very long process. Also, from POS to birth, all of my viable litters have been between 112 and 120 days.

Mark

jeff favelle Sep 08, 2004 11:39 AM

Do you find that your Bcc don't really like to mate during the cycling? I've never bred Bcc, but that's something I've neard from various breeders.

Thanks for the reply!

Mark Damico Sep 08, 2004 03:43 PM

begin increasing temps(which I don't cool very much in the first place). The better breeding males will get right to business while with others it may take a short while to begin to show interest.

Mark

morgans boas Sep 08, 2004 08:12 AM

Hi, I guess that I'm an early breeder, and a small-time breeder. I have 11 boas (bci), and 9 of them are breeder size (5.4). I usually introduce them together in mid to late sept, and almost always have all my babies before the end of april, but often sooner. The only "cycling that I do is slow down the size, and amount of food, and control their light cycle. The males usually stop eating on their own in august.
This year I jumped the gun a little, and introduced them together last weekend. Every male is doing their courting on the girls, so maybe they'll be earlier this year.
I haven't seen any drawbacks from doing it this way. I'm often the first to sell babies before the market is flooded. The snakes have always had good numbers in my litters (20-35). In 11yrs of breeding, I've only had a total of 2 slugs from females over 6ft (I had a mix of babies, and slugs from a female that was too young--shouldn't of bred her). Most litters are slug free --- knock on wood!

jeff favelle Sep 08, 2004 11:40 AM

I appreciate the time you guys took! That's awesome!

Cheers.

JDouglas Sep 08, 2004 05:02 PM

Jeff,
Many breeders in my area(Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri) that I have talked with introduce pairs in late September to early October and are ussually guided by the males refusal to eat.
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Jaremy Douglas

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