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rhachodactylus,could I please bother you long enough for you to look at some of my pictures and tell me what morph my raziel is?I keep getting conflicting answers from different people.I'd realy appriciate it.Thanks.
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if you mean this one , she's a Hypo tangerine

Dan, that doesn't look like a tang to me. Looks a lot more yellow than tang. I would call it a hypo/hi yellow....
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Josh
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Josh, tang doesnt always mean orange, with that amount of ct on that leo i would definatly call it a hypo tangerine, for it to be high yellow there would have to be faint lavender bands

"Josh, tang doesnt always mean orange, with that amount of ct on that leo i would definatly call it a hypo tangerine, for it to be high yellow there would have to be faint lavender bands"

Correct me if I'm wrong(i'm not), but tang DOES mean an orange colored leopard gecko. That gecko may have some tang genes in it or carrottail genes in it, but it's a YELLOW leopard gecko. It is a hypo, but not a tang. I'm sure some other people would agree with me, can the poster try posting this pic on the Fauna leo forum???
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Josh
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im sorry but, until it's proven i still say hypo tang, i have some hypo tangs from alberto AND kelli and neither are completely orange..i really dont think either of them would lie..

but, like i said, until he breeds her and its proven out,..i still say hypo tang

Id have to call that i hypo high yellow.Its way to yellow to be tang. Here is a high yellow that i had.....

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4.7.2 leopard geckos (super hypo tangs, blizzards,albinos)
1.0.2 crested geckos (lite cream fire, buckskin, tiger)
1.2 golden geckos
1.1 texas collared lizards
1.1 veiled chameleons
1.0 Bearded dragon

here is one of here offspring..

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4.7.2 leopard geckos (super hypo tangs, blizzards,albinos)
1.0.2 crested geckos (lite cream fire, buckskin, tiger)
1.2 golden geckos
1.1 texas collared lizards
1.1 veiled chameleons
1.0 Bearded dragon

I think a top breeder needs to get on here and redefine tang and high yellow.

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4.7.2 leopard geckos (super hypo tangs, blizzards,albinos)
1.0.2 crested geckos (lite cream fire, buckskin, tiger)
1.2 golden geckos
1.1 texas collared lizards
1.1 veiled chameleons
1.0 Bearded dragon

look at my post
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I meant I am not a top breeder yet but I am firends with most of them and I am just a year from it.
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Preston Berry
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i still say hypo tang, that first pic like Waldo said was washed out

Yeah, I remember reading (Leopard Gecko Manual) that a gecko was classified as a Tangerine if it had any Orange/Tangerine anterior to the tail base..

That book was written back in 1998, so with todays standards, that obviously wouldn't count. I'd classify the gecko in question a High Yellow Hypo, or a Hypo Golden, BUT I know some breeders that would have classified it as a High Yellow Hypo Tangerine (because of the orange on the tail base).

Just my two cents, but the way that the Manual describes the "original" tangerines, Dan was right, it could have been classified as a Hypo Tang.

"Yeah, I remember reading (Leopard Gecko Manual) that a gecko was classified as a Tangerine if it had any Orange/Tangerine anterior to the tail base."

Uhm, anterior means inside... - Heheh! I'm still there with you Dan, I'm positive that at one time some would have labelled that gecko a Hypo Tangerine.

Anterior means "in front of" or "the front surface of." The term commonly refers to the front side of the body. For example, your kneecaps and your face are on the anterior surfaces of your body.

Thus "Orange/Tangerine anterior to the tail base" means in front of the tail on the body of the gecko.

That gecko is not a tangerine by any standards, old or new.

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Yeah, that's why I posted the other post. Meaning that orange/tangerine would have to be on the body before the tail as well.

I still know many breeders that would have classified that leopard as a Tangerine. Key words here man are WOULD and HAVE.

But like I said in the first post I made, by todays standards, that gecko is a high yellow hypo, or hypo golden.

I was just saying that I can see why Dan said he'd classify it as a tangerine, because I'd heard the same thing sometime ago.

High yellows don't need traces of lavender to be considered high yellow. They need, well, yellow. You can find lavender in tangs.

The first hypos and superhypos weren't tang, so just because a leo is hypo or super hypo doesn't automatically mean it's tang.
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I has alot of Hypo Tangerines and that one is a Nice Hypo Golden known as Hi Yellow (Golden is old name for them till people change to Hi Yellow) and carrottail always not mean it is a Tangerine. Kelli has some awesome Hypo Tangerine Carrottail and they are hard to find because most losse color when they are adult or not proper nurtional to keep coloration and I did alot of expermients with it this year and I notice alot of differnce. Look back to orginal Super Hypo they were pastel looking and white till we intro the Tangerines that why we has Co Domiant Super Hypos and Nevies are slective bred for reduce Pattern so is Albeys till he intro the Ray Hine Line. A lot of people gets confused so I will got to rewrtie my info for my site with pics that are not mine from RAy Hine of Orginal Super Hypos.
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Wow,so everyone has there own opinion on what is hi yellow or tang.I was under the impression that to be hi yellow the leo has to be a nice bright yellow and to be tang there needed to be some orange in the body color.I know there isn't much orange in my leo but he does have orange on his face/head and is developing more orange on his body with ever shed.I wish his orange showed up better in that picture,I did use a flsh and so the picture is really bright,he is more golden in person.I'll post up some more picture when he is older and start the debate again.Thanks for all your input.
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I definately agree with the high yellow or golden. and a beautiful one at that! Tangerine needs some orange on its body for me to consider it tangerine. Most leos have natural orange on their tails anyways, and if its solid it would be carrotail, but not necassarily tangerine. I would call it a tangerine if the orange is on its body as well.
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