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Just thought I would share.Let me know what you think.If anyone has some really light colored or odd colored savannas,please share as well.
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this one is really cool tho its still smalland could change.

Awesome,tons of reds!HOw long have you had the little guy/girl?DO you have any info on local?Very nice.
Anyone else?

i got it in july,a freind of mine is a distributor some of the animal they receive are right off the boat ,i was looking for different colors or patterns and this one had his head turned looking up at me. its face looked pale ( reduced markings on the lip behind the eye),it was that dark dead skin brown, its taken a while to get the old skin off.he had these green ones at one time but they all seemed lethargic and having eye problems,im just tring to get a nice pair if i decide i dont want them i trade them out send them into the world with a better start ,this one curls up like a nile,i have no idea where its from,its a shame that, that information isnt mandatory.im into sand boas but i love the monitors mostly the bosc i have others that are from two other batches,i wish i would have taken a chance with the green ones.

From my limited experience, it seems like they keep their colors better and longer if kept off dirt. Both of my savs had big bright spots when I got them. Now the colors have faded because I keep them on dirt. They might not be as pretty but they seem happier when they are dirty. The first thing they do after they get a soak in the tub while I do major cage cleaning is to go dig in the dirt, then go for a dip in what "was" clean water.
Oh well, it's their home and they like things dirty. Reminds me of my sons room. lol

Scott
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

A few of them just came in like that, I will see if i can figure out where abouts they were collected from.

i hope you didn't pay more for these than most savannahs.

andrew

Nope,average five bucks a piece.One was a little more because I bought it from a pet store.Hmmmm?I don't know,I've been keeping reptiles for a while now and this group, as individuals seem to stand out against the average patterned and colored hatchling and each other.But,then again,I am no expert,so my reference's to compare them against is pretty slim.Do you have any cool pics of differrent looking savannas?I love to see some others out there from different locals.So what!(lol) there savanna monitors and the ammount imported made them less interesting to the public in the beggining,thus bread and butter pet store staple(that part stinks).I think there great.Not to big,pretty cut and dry maintenance and,to me,have a ton of variation in color and pattern.Not to mention,most of the time,gentle, mellow attitudes.I guess thats what I meant by my post.Thanks for the feedback.I can't wait to see some pics.

Wish I had a pic of one I saw in Ocala, Florida, recently to share with you. He/she was a beautiful orangy-peach color. I've never seen one at all that shade, and with that intensity. Need to start carrying my camera in the car, I guess.

Leslie

hey man, those little traits you are seeing is what breeders turn into projects thats how we now today have hundreds of morphs and i can see what you see in them,its all about what you do with them. many people dont see those little traits or they cant see that trait magnified you can,that one you have, i could see starting a granite type pattern the spots seem like they are broken up ,cool looking monitors.

I agree with Robert these are awesome morphs that would make interesting breeding projects, I only hatched a few clutches of this specie, my animals originated from Ghana and where plain in coloration therefore all my offspring’s where dull in color, I recently purchased this little girl also from Ghana she’s nicely colored in comparison to my last breeders, aim planning on breeding her to a nice Tanzanian male.

that we can purchase them on kingsnake all day long (ones that look like that). i was not saying they are not nice looking monitors, i just hope he does not try to pass them off as the next new morph, as they are not. they are nice normals, not hypos, snows, or anything else, nice normals.

andrew

I hear you no problem!

I paid $30 for this female, and would pay a few $100s for some of the pastels IV seen on the net. This is an underrated specie that holds many color variation because of its wide distribution, as we can see its statue in Herpetoculture is about to change, as it have changed with ball pythons, in my days nobody paid any attention to them.

When breeders start producing new morphs, the value of this specie will change and hopefully the senseless massive importation will diminish.
just my opinion

no one will run into an albino or a black and white without breeding ,the more breeding goes on the more likly we will see other traits, i like how dark the sides of this ones face are, the bodies just a dark normal.

I disagree on one point. Yes, there are some beautiful savs, I had a very high white one that I probably could have called a pastel, and savs are fun underrated monitors.

However, it would be a long shot to say they have a chance of breaking into the morph craze. Ben Siegel had a very hard time selling albinos. Niles are big monitors (if you are using balls to compare to savs, i would compare retics to niles)and those morphs don't sell.

So I just don't see it happening, unfortunately.

andrew

Much of what you said could of been said many years ago about other reptiles. Back when I started most of the high sellers of today were nothing but low cost over imported reptiles.

So it could very well happen.

i cant wait to see this one get big.

I can't wait to see that one get big as well!That is a beautiful savanna monitor,for sure.So,as I have started this conversation with pics and a heading "Diversity in savanna monitors",I have to point out a few things.First,I was just showing the difference in some of the savannas I have in my collection,diversity.As far as thier "marketability" that is how this conversation has evolved,not the intent of my original post.Why do you keep reptiles?For thier beauty?For thier future marketability?We all know that savanna's are heavily imported,as I said before,as bread and butter pet store staples,so obviously I am not trying to make a million off of keeping them.But I will say this,I feel it is rediculous to spend thousands of dollars on a monitor lizard.But,if you want to start a pretty fun monitor project with a broad gene pool,that people are over looking because they are so common,look no further.I see with my own two eyes a noticeable difference from local to local,individual to individual and thats enough to keep my interest in them growing.
On another note "Marketability"
I have posted numerous times in the classifieds for "High or light colored savanna monitors" with minimal to no responses.Why?If there is no demand for them and people could definitely sell them to me for two to four times the ammount they paid for them,why don't they?Because there are none out there?,doubtful.
Just a thought,no offense meant,so hopefully noe taken.
Thanks

What a beautiful monitor! Now you've got me wanting to go back and see if that peach one is still there. It was sort of pastel peach in the body color; not nearly as bright as that one. I, to, enjoy the diversity of color and pattern on my lizards. Just part of the whole fascination, I guess.

Leslie