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hello,

could someone please fill me in on the origin and/or differences in the red bull lines?

1 - are the ginter and crumbly lines related, are they from different or same localities?

2 - are all red bulls from a single mutant or is this a geographical variant?

thanks for your time.

matt

The Ginter and Crumbly lines are not related to everyone's knowledge. The Ginter line is a locale line from Kingsville, Tx. The Crumbly line is not a locale line. There is not a lot of knowledge, from what I know, about exactly where the Crumbly line bulls technically came from, but anyone into bullsnakes can tell that they are really nice TX bulls and should have no doubts. Perhaps Tony D. can get on here on this one!

With that being said, both lines are killer and to me, produce bulls that differ slightly in look. I have a Ginter red bull but would love to also have a Crumbly line red bull soon in my collection. Both lines are beautiful!

Here is a pic of my Ginter red bull hatchling.

Take care!
Billy

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Here is a link to my old site that explains what little is known about the Crumbly line. The pic is of my female as a yearling.

BTW ontact infor on the site isout of date.

Crumbly line history

great, that's a start. thanks for the information and sharing the photo of the beautiful snake.

matt

I'm new to red bulls myself, saw great examples of both lines in Daytona, heres a Crumbley hatchling I picked up from Tim Thomas.

that name (tim thomas) seems to come up a lot. i just received a CB 2004 crumbly red bull and can't wait to see what it will develop into.

back in the mid 1970s i had a young bullsnake that originated from the oklahoma zoo. this was a super orange snake that grew faster than any snake i had at the time (and i had quite a few). i'm just trying to figure if this was "akin" to what people are calling red bulls these days.

thanks for your comments. more would be welcome.

matt

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>>hello,
>>
>>could someone please fill me in on the origin and/or differences in the red bull lines?
>>
>>1 - are the ginter and crumbly lines related, are they from different or same localities?
>>
>>2 - are all red bulls from a single mutant or is this a geographical variant?
>>
>>thanks for your time.
>>
>>matt

Here's my male Ginter line red:

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