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Breeding live foods

qtkitty Jun 26, 2003 03:32 AM

I know i should probubly break this down into multiple sections .. but i would like to start several different feeders to supply not only my own turtles but help supply a nonprofit organization .. I would like to produce large amounts of earth worms , mealworms, and crickets .. as well as a supply of mice that would produce atleast a pinkie month and not much more than that ... and if possible for the lowest start up price possible and the lowest maintance cost

My fiance has promised to build me my own little shed out back ... so *G* no saranades at night while we are sleeping ..WoooHOO.. as well as no worry about smells insude the house from stinky things

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qtkitty Jun 26, 2003 03:36 AM

ohh and BTW if any one knows how to breed house flies .. it would help so much .. i have a baby RES and it seems the only live food she adores are flies .. and i DO NOT trust wild flies i catch

LeeFobes Jun 26, 2003 12:53 PM

1 pinkie a month???? dont bother with mice then

qtkitty Jun 26, 2003 03:56 PM

Well im sort of hoping that other turtle owners around would be interested in some as well .. and i would like to try my ahnd at it .. * whispers* it is a way to let the girls know they really dont want a pet mouse after all .. * arching a brow* they have been begging for a while .. and as all their other animals i have ended taking care of them so ... i fkigure give them two weeks where they are their pets then they will not want to have a thing to do with them and will never even look at them .. *lol* .. sorry its the truth though

qtkitty Jun 26, 2003 04:00 PM

how many on average would one female and one male mouse have a month ?

3-4 or more?

boids Jun 26, 2003 06:40 PM

they will have anywhere from 1 to 20 every 21 days but from my exp mostly about 10 - 12 pinkys every 21 days. Paul
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qtkitty Jun 26, 2003 09:35 PM

and here i thought mice only ever had but 3-4 *lol*

DeMak Jun 27, 2003 07:39 PM

I was driving through Humboldt County, CA. a couple of weeks ago. My son and I were driving my wife and her mon nuts. It's amazing how much redwood bark can look like a snake. We did see: 2 gopher, 1 king, and 1 to flat to ID.

DeMak

boissonnault Jun 29, 2003 12:40 PM

hi

lizardman Jun 27, 2003 03:45 AM

Here is a link on how-to breed houseflies--
Link

shannons Jun 26, 2003 10:23 PM

I would definintly recommend breeding as much of your herp food as you can - get the girls involved too...lots of neat lessons to be learned. Some would tell you not to get involved in it if you don't have a large collection, but sicne I started doing this about six months ago we haven't made a "food trip" to the pet store and at this point actually have extra food around all the time (good for you if you're thinking of helping out a local rescue what have you.) Here's what I would do in retrospect to our little experiments: Start with mealworms, - they are ridiculously easy, and your colony will expand exponentially. You cna keep all three stages in a bin with little problems, but I've found the three drawer (one of those rubbermaids) systems to work the best. MW that I'm feeding out go in one, which is emptied and cleaned once all the worms are gone, a bin that has eggs teensy babies is the second, and beetles who are laying eggs go in the third. For the other feeder insects I would reccomend roaches, since they are so much easier then those darn crickets. We do hissers, a lot of others do lobsters who need larger quantities/faster breeding. I raise mice for the class snake and one pair will reliably will give me about ten babies a month. You can freeze the babeis at the appropriate size in ziploc bags and hten thaw and feed or bring , still frozen, to your local non-profit for them to use. I prefer breeding rats, but since we have a Kingsnake I have goen back to the mice. They can stink, but if you are going to have a separate building. All in all, go for it. I enjoy raising herp food *almost* as much as my lizards!
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qtkitty Jun 27, 2003 12:45 AM

I know i had crickets .. which i could get smaller ones out of town .. so i would most of the time do that .. and get like 30-40 and put them in a seperate tank because the female anole i had at the time needed very small crickets .. and the male could eat the size teh store had in town .. so i had to learn all about them to keep them so they wouldnt die on me .. i had pretty good luck .. out of all of them over two years i only lost 4 i think .. but of course i never breeded them

Nice thing about breeding my own .. i know where they have been .. what they have been in contact with .. what they ate everything .. so there isnt any way that a contaminated bunch can get in

truth to be told .. i really dont trust feeders from pet stores ..

Lucien Jun 27, 2003 03:39 PM

I don't blame you for not trusting feeders from pet stores. The only way I trust them is if I know who their whole-saler is on things like crickets, rats, etc. Rats I don't need to buy anymore... I breed all my own.. and gerbils for the pinks...plus when my Sav gets older he can take almost full grown ones. I bought a colony of 2000 mealworms a year ago....I produce over 3000 every 2 months or so... alot of those go to feeding my geckos...4 hatchlings and 2 adults....I was amazed at how many they could pack away.. *L* No plans to breed any roaches right now, though I am trying superworms now.

qtkitty Jun 27, 2003 04:12 PM

i think roaches would be a little out of my leage just yet .. major thing being EWWWW NASTY ROACHES .. * coughs* between them and spiders *shivers * YUCK

i can deal with mice,mealworms ( of course they look alot like maggots * cringes*), earthworms and crickets .. maybe get a catcher for flies .. since i dont need a ton of them ... but i just put a cricket in with my baby RES we shall see if she likes it or not *lol*

shadow4108 Jun 27, 2003 10:40 PM

This has been a very informative post. I do have one question. Maybe the answer lies above, but I did not see it or something. I am fortunate enough to know the person who supplies my local pet store with feeder mice, but I dont see him enough to buy direct. Is it cheaper in the long run to just breed a pair of mice or buy them when needed. I'm feeding a hatchling ball python who is eating a mouse a week.

WingedWolfPsion Jun 29, 2003 04:12 PM

1.1 mice will still give you more than one pinky per month. <G> Their litter sizes can be over 15, and they rebreed as soon as they give birth. These are incredibly prolific animals.

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