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The Crested Revolution Continues (images)

NeoScales Sep 13, 2004 11:22 PM

Just a few more Cresty images from tonight...

Tiger (not colored up):

Thanks everyone,
-Randy

Replies (24)

kozmo02 Sep 13, 2004 11:55 PM

great looking cresteds. i have one that looks EXACTLY like the one in the first pic that I just recently bought off my friend.

only a couple months old right now.

gecco Sep 14, 2004 12:14 AM

Those are flipping amazing!!
Thanks for the gecko envy

lilroach56 Sep 14, 2004 02:02 PM

did you buy those from anthony? how much were they?
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 tiger crested gecko (peachs)
0.1 Red blood python (Rhianon)
0.0.1 ball pythons (FELIX!!!!!)
2.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, Bear, and Tony)

My image Gallery

NeoScales Sep 14, 2004 02:15 PM

Honestly, I wouldn't answer the question about what I paid if anything; it’s not relevant to the images.

If you have questions about Anthony's geckos, he's more than happy to discuss them with you - anthony@acreptiles.com

-Randy

Babamba Sep 14, 2004 04:03 PM

asdf

mincus Sep 14, 2004 11:43 PM

thats amazeing awsome job
ps whats ur website i am intrested in the dark and orange 1

NeoScales Sep 15, 2004 06:34 PM

Well, my website (as some may have guessed) is www.neoscales.com

However, none of these geckos are for sale and my website is pretty anemic right now. Just watch the weekend classifieds if you're interested in anything I may have (geckos and pythons).

-Randy

mincus Sep 15, 2004 10:27 PM

thank you and ill check out the classfieds then

jbachi Sep 15, 2004 11:35 AM

wow! really nice pics. I was wondering what photo techniques you were using to get such a nice uniform black background. I really like your photos and am kind of an amateur photo guy. If you feel like sharing any hints that would be great.
thanks
jason
Heres just an old pic of my favorite female, her name's Zephyr

alieliza Sep 15, 2004 04:53 PM

Hey,

I remember you having posted instructions and information about the moss and plants that you use in your vivarium.

I would love to introduce moss to my cresteds as a substrate, but I cant find the old posts.
You dont have to go through, and explain it all again, but if somehow you could give me the links to those other posts that would be great.
Otherwise, if its more convenient to re-explain, that would be great.

Oh, also, for a vivarium, do you use glass tanks?? I just got new screen cages, and would hate to not be able to use em.
Thanks!

NeoScales Sep 15, 2004 06:30 PM

First, you have a nice photo there!

Now - how to get a uniform dark background? First is to shoot on a black material without a discernable pattern, in this case I used velvet. You still may have some "fuzz", just use the burn or darken tool in PS to get rid of it.

-Randy

ciliatus Sep 16, 2004 10:55 AM

is it possible the geckos are a little photoshop tweaked?
either that or you have the first purpletongue-cresty...

but they sure still look good without photoshop ...

NeoScales Sep 16, 2004 11:52 AM

"is it possible the geckos are a little photoshop tweaked?"

Is it possible you need to adjust your monitor settings? Or may you should just replace it if it's old and out of date?

The color of the tongue is "red", it appears "red" on every monitor I've seen the image on and my monitor is calibrated for color and gamma. While I can appreciate that not everyone understands photo lighting and photo images, at least try to have some level common courtesy before making a poorly thought out dig at my images.

I know the Crested looks nice, I own it...and it's represented accurately in these images.

-Randy
www.neoscales.com

ciliatus Sep 16, 2004 05:41 PM

hehe, ok its dark red, the only problem is that its not a
normal tongue color. its obvious that there is more red and yellow in those pictures than there should be.
and i got enogh common sense to know, you used an imaging software,
because ther are no cameras that put your copyright and watersigns automatically into your pictures.

so dont feel attacked, you got nice animals there, there is no need to tweak the pics. i just get sick of all those pictures that are adjusted and all the people saying, "ohhh wow, i wish my fire had those colors ...." when in most cases there animals have the same colors ...

so i dont mean to attack specially you, as you are surely not the only one, its more like a call to the people: be true to yourself and other users here.

wish you a nice day

ingo

NeoScales Sep 16, 2004 07:07 PM

I don’t feel attacked - I feel you’re probably envious of others and/or naïve about photography. There’s no admission to make here, just your mistaken nonsense to respond to.

Perhaps the finer nuances of language elude you, but using image editing software to resize, add a watermark, and perform minor cosmetic corrections isn’t “tweaking”. Maybe you just don’t have or haven’t seen the quality of Crested’s I have. Maybe that’s more the issue here, not my images. If you think these are the brightest and best Crested’s I own or exist, you’re quite sadly mistaken (including this cresteds tongue).

The only "tweaking" in my images is some normal minor corrections that allow for finer scale detail and better web viewing (which is proprietary). So for anyone who’s never seen my animals to suggest that my posted images don't accurately represent them, that’s everything I need to know. Shame on you and your little green monster…

-Randy
www.neoscales.com

mincus Sep 16, 2004 11:53 PM

this is not the place to be critizeing people or there animals this is supposed to benifit all on it it is not ever 2 be used for personal attacks if you were really into nit picking other peoples animals make shure u loko at them from a very high quality moniter and a graphics card i am on this computer for 8 hours a day working and would have been the first 2 notice a doctored photo if i were to notice it i would not have attacked the person showing it though i would only have pm'd the user and told them i alos wouldent have offered 2 bu them if it was a doctered photo

my 2 cents
mincus

AnthonyCaponetto Sep 16, 2004 07:15 PM

1. The geckos came from me...meaning I've seen them and that's what they look like.

2. The tongue looks red to me...and if you pay attention, you'll notice that the end of ALL crested gecko's tongues are a brighter color than the rest of the tongue.

3. I work with computer graphics for a living and I don't see any reason to say that the photos have "too much red or yellow."

4. If you want to nitpick about accuracy, why aren't you complaining about the crested gecko pictures that more closely resemble a dog turd than they do a reptile? Whatever you do, ease up on the guy who provides this forum with the best crested gecko images we've ever seen.

5. You mention having common sense, so I'm going to ask you a question that may require a little.

Do you honestly think Randy would have bought $2,500 (or more) worth of photography equipment only to turn around and tweak images of a $300 gecko?

Think about that for a minute before you answer...and remember your common sense.

-Anthony
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

ciliatus Sep 17, 2004 02:18 AM

and off they go.

i am really not here to start a fight or anything, and i respect your opinion anthony, but your photos sometimes also seem a little exaggerated.

i got a computer company, i looked at the pictures on 19" tft and 22" crt, i work with photoshop and stuff for a living too. and if there is one thing i know, its is, that crested tongues are not THAT red.

of course it is possible that the flashlight and camera changed the colors, if it is so, i want to appologize.

i also want to say that your pictures arent of the extreme sort, there are others here, with RED animals and stuff, only problem: the corkbark they are sitting on seems strangely red etc...

and one more thing, i am defenitly not jealous of neoscales animals, eventhough i surely would like to have one or two of anthonys geckos, but since i am from europe (sorry for the bad english) it might never happen.

so finally you guys answer me a question: have you ever seen cresteds with THAT deep red tongues like at the last picture? if so, perhaps its some kind of morph not available in europe

best regards

ingo

AnthonyCaponetto Sep 17, 2004 11:08 AM

>>and off they go.

Did you expect to come on here making such accusations and not have us say something? Please. When you come onto a public forum and make accusations and assumptions about animals that you've never even seen, you're not going to get away with it. Not with me, anyway. While I try my best to keep a positive image in this hobby, I'll never be the guy to let someone make walk on him. As far as I'm concerned, you're just another rude know-it-all, who's letting jealousy get the better of them. You're not the first and you probably won't be the last.

>>i am really not here to start a fight or anything, and i respect your opinion anthony,

Judging by these and your previous posts, I think you do like to be argumentative. Because of that, I have zero respect for you or your opinion. The ONLY reason I've decided to defend myself and expose your for what you are, is so that nobody else buys into the garbage you're posting. You're a typical forum troll and it needs to be made clear.

>>but your photos sometimes also seem a little exaggerated.

Here's a RED gecko. If the corkbark in my photos looks red to you, you really do need to adjust your monitor(s).

>>and one more thing, i am defenitly not jealous of neoscales animals, eventhough i surely would like to have one or two of anthonys geckos, but since i am from europe (sorry for the bad english) it might never happen.

Your being in Europe tells me all I need to know. Here in the USA, Crested Geckos are getting better and better every generation through selective breeding. You've probably never seen ciliatus of this caliber...and no, it probably will never happen. Not from me anyway. You can just keep looking at our photos and tellig yourself they're doctored to make yourself feel better about not being able to own them.

My photos are taken under high quality, full spectrum fluorescents, which are manufactured to put off light that's as close to natural sunlight as possible. If you're used to looking at animals under low quality, yellow pitched, tungsten (incandescent) lighting, perhaps that's part of the problem too...my only problem with that is that you're too ignorant to realize that before you start making accusations.

>>i got a computer company, i looked at the pictures on 19" tft and 22" crt, i work with photoshop and stuff for a living too. and if there is one thing i know, its is, that crested tongues are not THAT red.

OK...whatever you say, chief. I've seen enough baby Cresteds to know what I'm talking about.

>>so finally you guys answer me a question: have you ever seen cresteds with THAT deep red tongues like at the last picture?

Since you're all hung up on this tongue thing, here you go...knock yourself out.

In hatchling and juvenile crested geckos, their tongues are very bright red. I've often said that this may be due to the fact that one of their defense mechanisms is to gape at the mouth when startled. A bright red tongue may be part of the design.

Of course, in your little disillusioned world, I probably just used photoshop to make my geckos' tongues look brighter...because as we all know, red tongued Cresteds are in high demand.
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

ciliatus Sep 18, 2004 04:03 PM

so i am the forum troll? and i am not the one calling other people names. i am here for over a year now, and the only reason why you go off is, because those are animals from you. bad for business?
so neoscales said he uses a program for finer scales? so what does that mean? putting more contrast in the pics? but that would change color, wouldnt it?

and your read is almost to red to believe it, but the cork bark beeing not beeing significantly more red than normal doesnt mean that photo isnt tweaked. there are ways to select parts of images you know...

but whats is this all about, i didnt call anybody a cheater here is my first post, that made you guys mad (wonder why?):

is it possible the geckos are a little photoshop tweaked?
(comment: i asked if its possible that the colors were altered a little, did i accuse him it is that way? NO)
either that or you have the first purpletongue-cresty...
(comment: i said nothing but i havent ever seen a crested with such a dark red (i only used the word purple because there is a skink called that way, so just kidding....) tonge, and i still havent, not even on your pics anthony)

but they sure still look good without photoshop ...
(comment: ok, my english isnt that good, and thats not what i wanted to say exactly. what i ment was: if the colors are 100% right or not, i bet those geckos sure look good)

END OF MY FIRST POST

ok, so you guys think im jealous? well i got nice fire cresteds and others myself. you wouldnt sell me geckos because im just a bad forum troll? ok i can live with that, just ment to be nice anyways, and tried to calm this whole thing down.

just one little advice (i know you dont care about that):
dont take you and your geckos to serious, and calm down, its better for health.

so i was wrong, all the pictures havent been altered, my computer equipment is s..., and i am just i stupid european, who cant compete with the professionals in the states.

peace now?

ciliatus Sep 18, 2004 04:05 PM

sorry lot of typos in there its red not read, and i use beeing to often.... should have read that one through...

mincus Sep 18, 2004 06:05 PM

my computer equipment is s..., and i am just i stupid european, who cant compete with the professionals in the states.

i doubt the computer equitment is s#$% as u said before as i have gone 2 europe and was amazed with the higher end electronics ( 3 times more ahead then most us companys)

and if i can rember correctly anthony u also breed animals that wre pionerred in europe so where u get off saying europe is behind is beyond me. i am not trying to favor 1 party or the other thats just the way things are.
another thing what does it matter where u are from? thats right it dosent this is a international forum where people from all over the world post u want to be descrimitationg twords other countrys then leave

i alos belive that anthony got way 2 much worked up and is not that way. he was just hurt over calling his animals corrected photo shopers

my 2 cants
mincus

ps this was not meant 2 harm any 1 idf it did im sorry

ciliatus Sep 18, 2004 06:55 PM

hi,

i rather thought about herping with the "i cant compete" statement. actually i dont think europe is ahead or behind the states (ive just been to hamm, which is advertised as the worlds largest exhibition, drove 2000km there and back), ive seen very pretty cresteds there and i know a lot of breeders here in europe but i never saw cresteds with that extreme bright and brilliant colors(as in anthony's pics) or such a dark red tongue as in the last of neoscales pictures. ok, im only for 1 1/2 years into cresteds now, but ive seen a lot of them.

i said where i am from because of neoscale writing: Perhaps the finer nuances of language elude you...

so i just wanted to tell them, that english is not my native language.
anyways, i dont understand why i am blamed to be a forum troll, when i was the one who didnt attack personally. i also didnt attack any nationality, or did i? maybe i used just a little sarcasm because they stated that there might not be the same quality of animals here(what still might be true, since i havent been to a reptileshow in the states yet), as there are in the states, so that wasnt me, it was them.

and again, i didnt say they where photoshoped (and i still dont mean to) i only wanted to ask, if the colors might be altered. i do alter colors from my cheap digicam myself (only 200$ not a 2300$ equipment like neoscales...) when i see, the flash light changed the colors to much. but when i try to get real good fotos i have to go outside into the natural sunlight anyways.

i dont know if anthony or neoscales breed reptiles for a living, for me keeping and breeding reptiles is only a hobby. i keep them in large natural setups in my living room, and enjoy to watch them.

i hope this useless arguing is coming to an end now.

best regards

ingo

NeoScales Sep 17, 2004 11:54 AM

Anthony was kind enough to provide images, so here's one more I took way back in the day sitting on someone's face…

This is a lot more attention than I normally give a forum troll. But I don't want people who read these forums to give you credit that you don't deserve (and you deserve ever so little). So who knows, one day you may have some nice Crested's of your very own. But until then, you'll have to settle for staring at the American brands with envy and ire.

I’ve wasted enough time with you…

-Randy
www.neoscales.com

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