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This picture doesn't do her color justice. I have figured out to get nice indoor pictures yet. The flash either washes the picture out of the lighting changes the pictures color. I'll try taking pictures of her again outside.

do you know now, shes a female, I thought Brock told me if they develope the orange its a male ?

But if mine stayed the same light color it would most likey be female? Did I mis understand?

I still cant understand WHY it takes so long to sex C. vestigium

I think Chippewa, is now getting faint orange ????????????
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Eve / PHEve

I'm just assuming it's a female since there is no sign of dewlap color in a year. I'm not 100% sure though.

But tell me, in the wild would they not be old enough to breed by a year old?
So in that case what we have to do is ask the ADULT MALES how they know ! Hahahhaha
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Eve / PHEve

hard to say if vestigium breed in the first year in the wild. Probably would depend on the conditions of that year. My lizard has been real shy and alittle stressed so I don't think it was growing at a normal rate.

Its the state lizard law section 3369 states: No male/female lizards shall partake and sexual acts before the age of 1 1/2. Not limited to, neck bites, throat gestures, change of color, increase in appetite, tail wagging, or push-ups.

ah yes, but children will be children and as long as there is no color changing, how would we really know what they have been doing under those rocks?
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vonnie
***Marriage is a great institution, but I'm not ready for an institution yet. Mae West ***

You are not mistaken, Eve... selected young/small individuals of this species can be a royal pain to sex. And yes, I did say that the onset of orange banding along the sides of the dorsal is often an indicator of a male. I have observed some faint orange lateral coloration in young female C. vestigium, but not usually to the extent of the lizard in the above photo. Correct me if I'm wrong, Will, but isn't that particular C. vestigium still quite small for its age? Could yet be a male after all, although I wouldn't bet a dime either way at this point... Just imagine a parent's frustration if it took this long to sex human babies! LOL...

Brock

It's sex could still go either way. I chose to call it a female for now hoping that I'm wrong.

fast, long and bulky already. If you look real close you will see a very faint hint of orange near neck area.

I see no dark in the throat (gular area) but hey this guy is no where near a year old. More like a few months.

He/ she is handled everyday and is very friendly , extremely active, and a great appetite. So the rest will be a surprise I guess. LOL

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Eve / PHEve