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Well I picked up a Louie. Pine and have done some research already and havin no sucess of tracking down a book, I been usin the net :S. Problem is I'm gettin two different opinions. Some say that the Pine would do well at 80 degrees and anything over 83 is stressful, which I dont agree on but am I wrong? I had most of my garters and corns around 85 degrees. Which brings me to the next opinion. Keep them around 83-85 degrees.

So which is it? lol.
If anyone wants to know my setup, if that helps at all. Feel free to ask.
Thanks,
Jess

I personally think 83 would be too high, since I keep my pits at 78-82. The thing you want to watch is your pits getting too hot and puking. That has been seen with temps too high with pits. I would not do 85...83 you may be ok with.

Take care!
Billy
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Genesis 1:1

Hmm interesting...
Anyone else?

Billy,

Your temps, are those the surface temps or the ambient temps? THank you. I hear its the surface temps you need to watch out for.

Duh..I forgot to say! LOL!

It is the ambient temp. I have a long rectangular convection heater turned on VERY low. It rotates the air and keeps the air at the desired temp I set it to. Some days I just turn it off and the position of the room in the house keeps it at 76 -78.

Snakes do really well at lower temps ( North American colubrids I am talking about ) in my experience.

Take care!
Billy
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Genesis 1:1

85 is too hot if they can't get away from it. If you have one end of the cage at 85 and the other at 76-78 (with hiding options at both ends) then you'll be OK. Once a Pit starts to regurgitate, it can be the beginning of a steep slide to the end. They often will continue to regurgitate until they just wither away and die, so your best bet is to not let it start. The most common cause for regurgitation in Pits is cage temps too high. Second is over-feeding (too many items at one feeding), or feeding prey items that are too large, especially in hatchlings.

A Louisiana Pine is too rare an animal to take chances with.
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We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Thanks Oldherper,
I guess I can keep the temps at 77-80.

I am thinking about getting a bull snake, and on warm days, my house often gets over 85 degrees. As of yet it has never been over 89, but I have tropical fish, and since I don't have central air, I don't like leaving on the air conditioner all day when I don't bake until its 90. If I get a bull, is it going to be a problem if temps get 85-90 degrees during the afternoon and evening hours until winter temps set in? I have central heat, so I'm not worried about the fella getting cold in the winter, but it never occurred to me that my house would be TOO hot for a snake.