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New homemade crested gecko cage

LaBete Sep 20, 2004 09:17 AM

Here's the new cage I made to house 1.2 crested geckos. It's 23.5"Hx23.5"Wx14.1"D. I've since added a pothos, a lay box, and a tension bar across the middle. On the left are a blacklight for night viewing and a UV light to keep the pothos and other potted plant (small, back center) healthy.

The bird water dish attached to the door is for my male, Sandiego, who likes to soak his butt in it. The doors have 2 layers of 1/2" plastic garden fencing cut at an offset to make approximately 1/4" mesh, in an attempt to keep crickets inside the enclosure. There are hook-and-eye latches on the doors to keep the cat from opening the cage (as she recently managed with a locked Sterilite enclosure, resulting in the death of 0.1 gecko).
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lzrdldy530 Sep 20, 2004 11:53 AM

Looks very nice. One comment though, I can't tell whether or not the hooks for the eyes are the spring-loaded ones that someone needs to pull back on in order to open, but if they're not, I highly recommend them. A cat could still work loose the kind that just slip down into an eye, but the spring-loaded ones take more dexterity than a cat is likely to summon. Good luck. Cresties make awfully expensive cat chow, and being completely defenseless, we have a responsibility to protect them.
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Terri
4:8:5 crested geckos: Popcorn, Goldfish, Harley, Bear, Big Red, Olive, Smudge, Blackie, Belle, Brilliant, Tina, Brick, Avis & Subtle, Toni(y), Kermit & Zipper

kozmo02 Sep 20, 2004 12:38 PM

where did you find the cage like that to make it? I would really like to make one for myself, looks nice and it was probably pretty inexpensive too.

let me know.

LaBete Sep 20, 2004 02:43 PM

Thanks for your nice comments on the cage. I wrote a full description of the materials and process I used to make it on another forum I frequent ( here's the link ), so check that out for full details. I'd repost it here, but the images are hosted there and don't allow remote linking, so it would take me longer to get the info to you with having to move all the images over here. It wasn't very expensive or difficult, as you guessed, though it did take some time to get it all together.

>>where did you find the cage like that to make it? I would really like to make one for myself, looks nice and it was probably pretty inexpensive too.
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>>let me know.
Cage-building documentation

LaBete Sep 20, 2004 02:38 PM

Terri,
You definitely have a good point. I tried to make the latches snug enough that they'd be a challenge for a cat to open (plus there are 'bumps' (for lack of a better word) at the tops and bottoms of the doors so one does have to pull them open rather than their falling open. Even so, I would like to make it more secure than it is now, so I will look for these latches you mentioned. I considered a sliding-bolt type lock, but they seem to be a bit wide for the mounting space available on the doors.

Thanks for the idea.
Marla

>>Looks very nice. One comment though, I can't tell whether or not the hooks for the eyes are the spring-loaded ones that someone needs to pull back on in order to open, but if they're not, I highly recommend them. A cat could still work loose the kind that just slip down into an eye, but the spring-loaded ones take more dexterity than a cat is likely to summon. Good luck. Cresties make awfully expensive cat chow, and being completely defenseless, we have a responsibility to protect them.
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>>Terri
>>4:8:5 crested geckos: Popcorn, Goldfish, Harley, Bear, Big Red, Olive, Smudge, Blackie, Belle, Brilliant, Tina, Brick, Avis & Subtle, Toni(y), Kermit & Zipper

charliesgeckos Sep 20, 2004 03:43 PM

Well, it would be best to just keep the cat away from the cage(s), like off the floor or in another room - I noticed "our" demon-cat stalking and harrassing some of my geckos in one of the back room, which finally answered the question about why they kept dropping tails and freaking out every time I went near them to feed them (and these were some juvies also). I know that it would pretty much suck if I had to live in fear of being eatten by a big furry animal everyday of my life...LMAO! But seriously, I know that it is hard esp if you have limited space, but if the cat continues messing with them, squirt bottle the cat or move the cage... Something to keep in mind if you like the cresteds with tails on them and being able to handle them w/o them freaking out too much...

Oh yeah - I have no idea what kind of light fixture you have, or if it is even inside the tank but you might want to check to see if it has any hot spots on it. Also, I am pretty sure that you have already checked on the lighting fixture and the watering situation...buttttt---water and electricity don't mix. *wink wink* Be safe and best of luck!!!
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Charlies Geckos

kozmo02 Sep 20, 2004 06:10 PM

the link you posted doesnt work and I cant find your post on this ball-python forum.

LaBete Sep 21, 2004 01:32 PM

>>the link you posted doesnt work and I cant find your post on this ball-python forum.

I didn't post it on the forum here, because of the explanation I gave you about the images. Here, then, is the description I wrote up, without the images, but the full version is available in the Caging section of the forums of www.ball-pythons.net:

First, I started with a Black & Decker SpaceRite series wall cabinet ($25 at Lowe's). These come in three sizes, wall (23.6" x 14.1" x 23.6" ), base (about 36" tall, otherwise same), and full (about 5' tall, otherwise same).

These are durable plastic cabinets with tool-free assembly, and the wall size comes with hardware to wall-mount it, which might be handy in the future. The doors have a hollow square-shaped frame and single-thickness plastic panel in the middle. I used a soldering iron to "cut" out the panel in the middle (use a table saw or jigsaw if you have one), then burn a trench in the middle all the way around where the panel had been. If you use a soldering iron to melt plastic, be sure that you use it in an area with plenty of ventilation, or better yet, outdoors. The fumes are noxious.

I then used two layers of 1/2" plastic garden fencing ($10 at Lowe's) cut at an offset (use 1/4" if you can find it, or plastic craft mesh or hardware cloth if you like) to replace the door panels. This allows for viewing, misting, and air circulation. The 1/2" would have been fine alone with this size geckos, but I wanted to prevent cricket escapes as well, so I made effective 1/4" holes by cutting at an offset, 1" larger than the panels for 1/2" inset on each side. I used hot glue to ensure the mesh would stay put, even if tugged by cat claws.

I wanted to be able to view the geckos both day and night and to use both live plants and fake, so I melted small holes in the frame of the cabinet sides' top edges and screwed in cup hooks for the vines, then mounted two 18" fluorescent fixtures ($12 ea. at Lowe's) to one side of the cabinet using double-sided tape sold as strong enough to mount door mirrors. I also melted holes in the top of the wall and the bottom of the roof to allow the lights' power cords to pass through. The front fixture holds a black light and the back fixture holds a UV light. They are mounted vertically so as to give nearly equal light distribution through the height of the cage and both on the same side because I was concerned about misting them.

Because of Waldo's recent demise that appeared to result from being, er, liberated by a cat, I wanted some security to the cage even though I knew the geckos couldn't open it themselves, so I added two hook latches to the front doors. Slide bolts would have been more secure, but I'm protecting against cats, not toddlers. You may notice a bit of a gap between the doors and top. It's not enough for the geckos to escape, but I plan to add small shims anyway.

LaBete Sep 21, 2004 01:26 PM

The cabinet is actually wall-mountable (comes with the hardware to do so), so as soon as I figure out where the geckos are going to be for the long run, I will most likely use that option. We just moved into a new house weeks ago and are still getting set up with everything. I can assure you, though, that the cat does hit sprayed with water every time she gets too close to the cage. Only one of the 5 cresties I've had has dropped its tail so far, but I definitely want to keep cat-crestie intereaction to a minimum.

The light fixtures are inside the tank, and I was worried about water electricity=danger too, which is why I mounted them both on one side of the cage and mist only the other side, not pointing the water toward the fixtures. I read that UV doesn't penetrate glass or plastic well, so to keep the UV effective, I needed to have the bulb exposed, and that optimum distance from the UV light is only about 12", so setting the lights on top over metal mesh wasn't an option. If you have suggestions for a better way to deal with these limitations, I would be happy to see them and try to figure out a way to implement them. I want my geckos safe and happy.

>>Well, it would be best to just keep the cat away from the cage(s), like off the floor or in another room - I noticed "our" demon-cat stalking and harrassing some of my geckos in one of the back room, which finally answered the question about why they kept dropping tails and freaking out every time I went near them to feed them (and these were some juvies also). I know that it would pretty much suck if I had to live in fear of being eatten by a big furry animal everyday of my life...LMAO! But seriously, I know that it is hard esp if you have limited space, but if the cat continues messing with them, squirt bottle the cat or move the cage... Something to keep in mind if you like the cresteds with tails on them and being able to handle them w/o them freaking out too much...
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>>Oh yeah - I have no idea what kind of light fixture you have, or if it is even inside the tank but you might want to check to see if it has any hot spots on it. Also, I am pretty sure that you have already checked on the lighting fixture and the watering situation...buttttt---water and electricity don't mix. *wink wink* Be safe and best of luck!!!
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>> Charlies Geckos

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