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Is there somewhere, some reference materials that I can read to learn more about these two dwarfs?
I have been thinking about getting one, and I keep seeing the adds lately for the Kayuadi dwarfs. Yet those I have spoken to have told me they are wild caught, and have a nasty disposition.
But the ones I have seen that are listed as Kayuadi dwarfs, are , or seem to be a prettier colored snake than the Jampea.
Most people telling me about the Jampea dwarf are telling me, these are more even tempered snakes, and that their coloring is prone to change, seemingly from day to day.
Now I read that both species may be one and the same.
If anyone knows of any reference materials to help me make up my mind I'd appreciate it.
I would just as soon get a normal retic, but I have too many burms taking up all my space.
But...I have enough room for a dwarf.However I'm not sure what to believe, and that maybe I should just close my eyes, and go for it.

Please check out my website, I have been collecting the animals for several years now scince 97-98?. I started work on the dwarf page last month, it will be some time before I get it complete. We currently belive they are the same, they are from islands about 12 miles apart linked by coral reef and many smaller islands... Being island dwellers however limits there ability to interbreed, but the truth of the matter is that most cannot be readily identified by appearance. Both can grow to an avrage of 10' in my experiance. They are considered the same scientificaly and geneticaly speaking they are...
The Dwarf Retics Page

Thanks for this info. It is very informative, and easy to follow and read.
Is the super dwarf a pure animal, or a CB morph?
I really like the super dwarf, mainly because the colors are closer to a normal retic.
I can honestly say, I have never done as much research on an animal as I have on these dwarfs.
Once I get done building my new cages, I see one in my collection probably around spring '05.
In the meantime, I will keep learning as much as I can.
Thanks again.

Thanks, and if you do come into any info please forward it to me I would appreciate it. The page will continue to be worked on as I find time.

The super dwarfs are WC animals from a secretive locale... The exporters have not told anybody where they are collected. There are many theorys as too why but im affraid I dont have any proof any way. If you are intrested in the real "SUPER DWARF" animals then you should contact Mike Wilbanks. There have been a ton of dwarfs on the market labeled as super dwarfs. I would "suggest" the aniamls are jampeanus and should not be called super dwarfs at all. If you were willing to pay $1500, on a pair of dwarfs I would stick to CB animals only!

Infact I would not recomend the purchase of any WC DWARFS to ANYBODY regaurdless... From experiance I can tell you they do not acclimate well at all. I would be willing to bet that 99% of the imported adults will never be successfuly breed in captivity. I would also suggest that most (over 60%) will suffer from VERY serious health problems due to stress.

In addition the fact that the aniamls are living in a protected area, makes them illegal to collect. Being inhabitants of tiny islands, I fear that there populations are probably not strong enough to withstand importation for long. As a member of the herp community, I would love to see more avalible, but as a human being living in the 21st century, I would hate to see them become extinct in the wild due to members of the pet trade. It is alarming to me that statistics indicate that a global mass extinction is well underway at this very time! The figures indicate that in the next 20-30 years between 20% to 50% of all known species globaly will be gone...

Thanks Shaun D

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Great work Shaun ! Thanks for taking the time to put all of this together man. Was very interesting.

Thanks guys but theres still alot to do and the site is curently what I would call a BETA version. I need to take a break and read through all of the reports and papers I have and put some more info into it. I hope to include breeding data from the known breedings as well as general info conserning the area, people, climate, and topography, in time. As well I would like to get some info about the morphs, either natual or not, but all of that does take time and we could all use more of that. Anyhow we will be collecting samples from our imports to have DNA annalysis done in time. I do hope to visit some day but at the moment indonesia especialy the remote areas are in turmoil and funding of such a venture is not avalible. I could use some more personal experiances most especialy with the Selayar aniamls we have been establishing a group of LTC and CH animals but not enough that I can make any solid statements about a whole species. Any photos of dwarfs, especialy head scalation is appreciated, as well as info conserning the area.