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IJC questions...

Tigergenesis Sep 22, 2004 10:12 AM

I'm considering looking for one of these beauties at the Chicago show coming up. Will a cage sized 48x24x12 be okay for an adult female?

Also, how difficult is it to get these guys eating f/t and are they prone to go off feed (compared to ball pythons, etc)?

Thanks!
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Replies (7)

bhmorrill Sep 23, 2004 09:07 AM

I am by no means a pro, but here is my take. So you know my background, I have had 2.2 IJC for almost a year now. I would say that the cage dimensions you mentioned are big enough for an adult female. Also, 3 of the four I have had have taken every single mouse I have put in there, ft or pk. The last one didn't take food for a little bit (2 months off and on), but since she did start taking food she has eaten every time! I would highly recommend them to anyone interested in them. Great snakes!
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skyclad Sep 23, 2004 09:45 AM

Question, did you just leave the pinky or fuzzy in his cage and he ate on his own? I have had my snake for two weeks now, he is a baby, and he doesn't want to eat. My temps are fine as well. I'm just asking ajyone every method they have tried for feeding, the last thing I would want to do is have to force feed. I don't know if these snakes will take a pinky or a fuzzy dangling over their head after not eating for 3 or 4 weeks. It seems like when ever I dangle a fuzzy the fuzzy moves so much that the snake freaks out and turns his head. So I'm trying to dangle pinkys over his head because they move less. I try to offer food to him every other day without any progress. He's just about a month and a half old

JDouglas Sep 23, 2004 12:57 PM

"Question, did you just leave the pinky or fuzzy in his cage and he ate on his own? I have had my snake for two weeks now, he is a baby, and he doesn't want to eat. My temps are fine as well. I'm just asking ajyone every method they have tried for feeding, the last thing I would want to do is have to force feed. I don't know if these snakes will take a pinky or a fuzzy dangling over their head after not eating for 3 or 4 weeks. It seems like when ever I dangle a fuzzy the fuzzy moves so much that the snake freaks out and turns his head. So I'm trying to dangle pinkys over his head because they move less. I try to offer food to him every other day without any progress. He's just about a month and a half old"

How big is the cage he is in and what are your temps. Do you have good hide spots? I have had good luck offering larger mice instead of smaller as you did. A hopper mouse seems to really get them going. Just drop a live one in the cage making sure to disturb the snake as little as possible. Putting a perch in the cage may also help.

Good luck,

Jaremy Douglas
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Jaremy Douglas

skyclad Sep 23, 2004 02:54 PM

Hey, thanks for the advice. I do have a few more questions if you don't mind. I have a great piece of drift wood that hangs high in the tank, he loves to chill up there. My temps are 88 on the warm side and 75-80 on the cool side. when he's on the ground he likes to go under the drift wood. I dropped a hopper in his cage and at night when the lights are out he follows it around and stalks it, but he never strikes, he goes into the pose and then just stops. If this is the only timeway he's showing interest, should I maintain this teqnique? Do you think he'll eventually snatch one? Can I leave a hopper in there over night? Will it stress him out? Alot of people tell me not to do it, but it seems like that's the only time he shows interest in it. When I hold it above his head, it's too wild for him and he turns the other way. Any info would be much appreciated, thanks.

JDouglas Sep 23, 2004 04:11 PM

"Hey, thanks for the advice. I do have a few more questions if you don't mind. I have a great piece of drift wood that hangs high in the tank, he loves to chill up there. My temps are 88 on the warm side and 75-80 on the cool side. when he's on the ground he likes to go under the drift wood. I dropped a hopper in his cage and at night when the lights are out he follows it around and stalks it, but he never strikes, he goes into the pose and then just stops. If this is the only timeway he's showing interest, should I maintain this teqnique? Do you think he'll eventually snatch one? Can I leave a hopper in there over night? Will it stress him out? Alot of people tell me not to do it, but it seems like that's the only time he shows interest in it. When I hold it above his head, it's too wild for him and he turns the other way. Any info would be much appreciated, thanks."

Your temps are good and it sounds like he has some good hides and a perch. Also, baby carpets seem to do better in small enclosures. I use a shoe box size plastic tub. Recently I purchased a couple juvenile IJCP. What you described is exactly what my juveniles do when I offer them rat crawlers. They sniff it and stalk it but when it gets close they shy away. Then when I scent the rat with a mouse they eat it right away. Have they always been eating mice or were they on rats. If they have been on rats they may not want mice now. Many breeders including myself offer pinky rats as a first meal and although the meal may seem large for a hatchling they take it down easily. This may sound weird but where you get your mice may also affect the feeding response. I have a picky mouse eater who would not eat mice from RodentPro but when offered his usual mouse from Classic Dums he would eat right away. Maybe it was the bedding they used? I think leaving a very small hopper mouse in the cage overnight would not be harmful if food is left for the mouse but from my experience if they don't eat it in the first hour they will not eat it at all. I have also noticed that I get a much better feeding response when the food item is HOT. I have had them refuse a fresh killed rat but after soaking it in a hot water bath it was taken right away. I would try to feed it every 3-4 days so it doesn't get to stressed out. Also from my experience baby carpets do better when kept very humid because they dehydrate easily. Braining and getting some blood on a FT mouse may also stimulate a feed.
Sorry for the long ramble and good luck!

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Jaremy Douglas

skyclad Sep 23, 2004 08:08 PM

Hey thanks for the reply. The place that I got him was regalreptiles.com, they told me that he was started on mouse fuzzies. I could try scenting a rat with a mouse, but I'm going to wait a few days before I do anything becuse I was trying to feed him every other day. The place I get my mouse fuzzies is a local pet shop up the street. I'll also trying to get some somewhere else. Anyway, thanks for all your help, now I'm on a mission.

Tigergenesis Sep 23, 2004 10:00 AM

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1.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Indigo"
1.0 Snow Corn snake "Chile"
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