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really stressing...hope it's not insecticide...

suzanndee Sep 22, 2004 08:06 PM

Thanks for the advice I've gotten on my sulcata's not eliminating, but she (he?) still isn't (not peeing, either!) and it's been a week and a half. The vet is now trying a de-wormer just in case, hoping to avoid knocking her/him out for an internal. He's reluctant to use Flagyl--said there are potential side effects.

In the meantime, my brother is freaking me out now because he used an insecticide in a room where she slept for two nights, though it was applied directly in the grooves of the walls and is a sticky powder and therefore apparently not airborne. She got nowhere near it--my mother cleaned the carpet and moldings and the tort was only in an enclosure (plastic bin) in that room and spent her days in another room that was untreated. It was a week prior to this thing happening, so it's probably not related, but my brother said what if it's renal failure or liver malfunction (since she hasn't apparently peed as well as not pooping)--it's a permetherine insecticide--delta methrin.

But then again, it is wierd that she had that one poop and then started straining that first day. It really does sound more like an obstruction, although nothing showed up on the xray. Although why would that stop urination as well? We've been bathing her every day to hydrate her, which seems like the right thing to do, especially since she strains more on the days when she hasn't been bathed, but I don't want to overhydrate and overwork the kidneys either.

We're moving next week, too, which will only stress her more.

How long can a tort go without eliminating anything and not be septic, anyway?

Also, I really hope strawberry leaves are ok. My father was encouraging her (him, whatever, can't get used to it) to eat them a couple of weeks ago. I haven't seen them on any lists of poisonous plants, but my husband keeps bringing it up...

Sorry to be continuing this discussion, but this is a tort who was eliminating like clockwork and now--absolutely nothing. Although the good news is, she's still eating and walking about--a bit less than previously, but it has been cooler, so that's to be expected.

Thanks for any further feedback, especially about the length of time and whether I'm freaking too soon.

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EJ Sep 23, 2004 10:07 AM

One thing that bothers me about this post is your fear of 'overhydrating'.

I can only imagine where this comes from.
You cannot 'overhydrate' unless the kidneys have already failed. Running water through the kidneys will not tax the kidneys. It is actually good for the kidneys and if you have even the slightest suspicion that there is something going on with the renal system you want to run as much fluids (preferably electrolytes) through the system to aid in the removal of impurities.

This is why heat and hydration is your first course of action with a suspected sick reptile.
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