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HELP!!! I think my leo/leos may be sick!

XTripleZeroX Sep 25, 2004 04:00 AM

So I've had two leo's caged together for a while. One's a male and one's a female. They are each over a year old. They're the greatest. No problems whatsoever and they enjoy each others' company. Their crap has always been solid and I've had no reason to suspect them of ever being sick. To my dismay, I came home today to find some yellowish/liquidy material dried to the paper towel. There appeared to be two yellowish pools that had dried. It's been hotter around here recently, but other than that there have been no changes and both my leos are eating well. I came back again tonight to find two new stains. One was solid and normal, the other a yellowish pool like the one before. One of my geckos seems to be crapping normally, the other not so much. The thing is, it is not just urine I am seeing. It is much more than that. It is like liquidy yellow feces. What is goin' on? Anyone have a similar experience? I can not take a fecal to the vet anytime soon as I do not have the time or money, plus usually little is learned. What should I do?

Replies (7)

Snarks Sep 25, 2004 12:19 PM

well you should take it to a vet if you don't think its urine. Even if you don't think you'll learn much and they're expensive which are both false. taking it to the vet to get a fecal is the first step in assessing health and apparently in the states they're only around $50.
No one on this forum will be able to help you even if we saw a pic, because in the end we can't prescribe medicine to you.

If you're really worried about your leos, go ask around and for quotes/estimates on prices.
Good luck

duckofdomination Sep 25, 2004 02:16 PM

Also I dont really want to be harsh, Because you have probably had leos for longer than I have, But mabey you should give them to someone else if you dont have the time or money to take care of them.
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I have a new leo named Mr.Crowley. He lives in a 20 gallon long tank all by himself. Here are a couple pictures of him
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XTripleZeroX Sep 26, 2004 05:20 AM

Hey Duck, how long have you been dealing with reptiles? Have you yourself ever encountered a problem? I've successfully kept many species of reptiles for almost seven years now. You on the other hand probably have not ever been to a vet and had a fecal done. It is expensive, and the results 99 percent of the time give you no insight into helping your herp. If by chance a specific problem is identified then expensive and drastic drugs are prescribed. Usually, the drugs have no effect and end up causing the herp to loose immense weight, ultimately leading to its death. I posted in this forum specifically describing the look of my gecko's feces. All I wanted was a response from someone if they had a similar experience so that maybe a new light could be shed on my gecko's condition. By all means I will never hesitate to spend whatever money and time I need to for my animals, but the fecal/drug prescription way to go is an endless depressing spiral that usually leads to more harm than good. You shouldn't be so bold throw out advice when you yourself have not been involved in the reptile world for long at all.

Triad Sep 26, 2004 10:10 AM

I don't mean to get in the way of a little fight but Duck did say this:
ALSO I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE HARSH, BECAUSE YOU HAVE PROBABLY HAD LEOS FOR LONGER THEN I HAVE

So he wasn't trying to be mean, he even said it himself that he didn't wanna be harsh.

Here's what I can do to help you: Go look at my poop topic down the page. Does the liquid that comes out sort of look like dried coffee on a counter? Like dark color around the edge of the circle and lighter on the inside? That's also more pee that didn't become solid. I had never seen my leo do that before either but it was because I had had her on reptile carpet now I have her on tile. That was the first time I'd seen it.

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=581220,581220

That's the topic I made and there are 2 good responses in there. It could either be more urine that didn't form into the white poo like ball or a bodily fluid.
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XTripleZeroX Sep 26, 2004 05:27 AM

and by the way, to give you some advice... Your leo's tail is waay too small! He's obviously got no fat reserve and does not look like he is well fed at all. Did you get him at petco? In addition, a 20 gallon tank is too big for a single leo. In the real world they spend most of their lives living within a square foot of space. In addition to that, yours looks like a juvenile. Get him a ten gallon and watch out for petco/crypto. Know your facts before you [bleep] on others.

tim5580 Sep 26, 2004 10:35 AM

>> In addition, a 20 gallon tank is too big for a single leo.

Is it? I have a baby one in a 20 gallon long. I always heard about tanks being too small, never too big. He's about 6-7" long so a cage with 30"x12" floorspace seems good.

Also, I have been keeping Leopard Geckos less time than everyone else on this forum. I've had mine since Wednesday

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0.1 Domestic Housecat "Kiki" ==
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XTripleZeroX Sep 26, 2004 03:16 PM

Tim, yes a twenty gallon is too big. Everyone who seems to rely only on the internet for their info usually tends to be a little misinformed as there is much misinformed "jumping on the bandwagon". With other lizards, especially those active in the daytime, (bearded dragons for example), they need a ton of extra space. Most daytime active lizards spend a lot of time running around, climbing fences, exploring, etc. In that case a big tank is good. For leopard geckos this is not the case. As I said earlier, they literally live their entire lives within a square foot of space, only leaving to hunt or drink. So yes, I'd recommend a ten gallon for a single leo. It'll also make it a lot easier for him or her to hunt his prey, as a twenty gallon provides plenty of room for crickets and such to move quickly around in. If your leo is doing fine, finding all of his food, and constantly exploring his territory then I'd say you were fine. Usually though a twenty gallon is too much for a single leo. It is your call though. Every lizard is different, some do better in different situations. I appreciate your concern for your little guy.

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