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Pet stores are the devil?!?

mtbker73 Sep 28, 2004 08:21 AM

I keep reading all these posts about the evils of the pet industry and the greedy, uneducated ways of pet store employees. I want to offer up a perspective to think about, argue, flame or simply ponder.

Pet stores are retail. I work retail right now. A fundemental aspect of retail is turning a profit. This alone should not be viewed as a bad thing. All retailers turn a profit if they stay in business. Its a simple cause/effect relationship; Turn a profit, stay in business; do not turn a profit, go out of business. I would challenge that even Pro Exotics is turning a profit, yet they are not viewed as demonic. So, the question should stay focused on the manner in which they go about generating those profits. A frequent point of contention with most pet stores is knowledge of the animals they sell.

Now we are getting to a valid subject. I am quite sure everyone on this board can tell at least one horror story about a pet store that gave them terrible information or a half-dead animal. This follows with another fundamental of retail; in any given market there are good stores, and ther are bad ones, there are knowledgable employees, and there are idiots. What I think we as a community need to accept is the personal responsibility to educate ourselves before we take on the care of another living creature. I can promise you this, if you rely on retail centers as you sole eductor you are totally at the mercy of that store's abilites or lack there of. If you are lucky, maybe you talk to one of the only people at Petco that can tell you exactly what you need, accurately and honestly. Or maybe you speak to the cashier who kept and Iguana in high school "but it died." The point is, much like your sav's diet, your educational resources should be varied. This will ensure you have a lot of information and can make educated decisions about your husbandry and needs.

Second, I think its important to mention the bulk of the animals sold at major pet stores. Monitors are not one of them. You will certainly see them, do not get me wrong, but the bread and butter of their animal sales are DOGS, CATS, FERRETS, turtles, frogs, geckos and snakes. And for many of their reptiles, the products they sell ARE NEEDED.

So, we can slam pet stores for trying to make money. We can call them evil for trying to sell reptile specific products that are more expensive. We can certainly challenge the quality of their knowledge. Or we can understand the last fundamental of retail I'll mention; People will pay a lot of money for convenience. If it has a label on it that says "use this for your turtle," and happens to cost $10 more than the same product at Home Depot, people will pay that so they do not have to load up the kids and make another stop at Home Depot. (But now I'm making generalizations...)

My advice is this. If you are in the market for a monitor, find a reputable breeder that specializes in Monitors. Research the different species you are interested in. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Then, set up your enclosure with the things you have determined you need. And once you introduce the animal to their new home, your work has just begun. Take advantage of pet stores to supply the items they can for you, but rely on YOUR knowledge of those needs, not theirs.

One post-script point. Just becasue they are "breeders" by claim does not make them any better, possibly not as good, as pet stores. Read some of the posts here about people who have visited Reptile Expos and spoken to various "breeders." Look for breeders with brick and mortor presence. ProExotics is a great example. They have an online presence and a retail store. You can visit their website and view pictures of their animals and facilities. Being able to do this will filter out the fly-by-night animal butchers who buy animals by the bucket and sell them by the pound.

Good Luck. Rant over.

Replies (4)

FR Sep 28, 2004 09:36 AM

I agree with most of your post, with the exception of a few points.

As a whole, petshops are like anyother business, there are some that are profitable and many that are not. The goal is to attempt to make a profit. Profit is not automatic. Its also not consistant. Some days/months/years are, and other times they are not.

Also, petshops come and go, as well as their employees. So to judge a petshop, for now and always, is not accurate. They depend on their current employees.

Yes, there are many very good pet/reptile shops. The task of the buyer is to find the good ones and support them. I do, theres a great shop in my town and I support them.

For instance, I buy supplies from the Bean Farm, they are nice and I have always recieved their products in a timely manner. on the otherhand, I have ordered supplies from another source and the supplies were late and in fact, some are still on their way, from an order I made three years ago, I paided in advance, too.

Lastly as I mentioned above, things change, and Proexotics does not have a retail store, at this time. Also, I think your assuming they make a profit. I think you should ask Chad for that answer. Also, because of the fact, they closed their retail outlet, whether they make a profit or not, has to be in question. In their case, I am not sure its about profit, as Chad as a love for reptiles and a means to support it. In this case, profit is something hoped for, and may or may not be attained.

I do agree this "commerial" label, is something to be concerned about. As far as I know, "commerial" is what our country and way of life is all about. It has nothing to do with the quality of information or quality of animals. Those are based on the person/persons, envolved. Not because its a commerical business or not. Thanks for your view, it was great. FR

mtbker73 Sep 28, 2004 09:56 AM

I only used ProExotics as an example because they have a good reputation and people know who they are. I personally, know very little about them at all.

EJ Sep 28, 2004 09:43 AM

There is a very unique individual that usually attacks petshops. They, as a group, are by far not the majority but they sure as $hit portray themselves as such and have very loud voices. (for some reason PETA comes to mind)

Those of us who enjoy this hobby might keep that in mind and speak up a little more or these control freaks just might dictate if we can continue maintain the animals we do.

Some of the folks in the UK might want to make this point clearer.

This bit comes from the recent notice of the laws recently enacted in NY (is it true the shows have been shut down)(I don't believe it)
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Soulskater Sep 28, 2004 11:24 AM

I agree. There are two exotic pet shops in my town. One is quite good (at least in comparison with others i've heard about) and the other is not so good. The biggest difference is the staff. In the not so good shop the staff act like they know everything and tell you that the animals are all easy to look after. In the other shop the staff do not claim to know everything (although they do seem to know a lot) but can recommend books and websites.

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