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I need some help finding a WT monitor, preferbally a baby. I would get a BT, but the thought of a 7' BT is kinda scarry and i dont really have room for a 12x4x4 cage. I can deal with 4-5', maybe even 6, but not 7 . If noone can help me, i'm going to get a Sav since they dont get to big.

If you dont want to get a bt because they grow to big then a white throat is no better because they grow to be the same size. I have noticed that white throats apear to grow a little bigger than black throats. they seem to have biger and longer bodies than bt's. If u plan on getting a savanah monitor make sure that it is captive bread or at least very healthy. ive bought 2 savs and one died in a week and the other one was so parasite infested i just took him back so i wouldnt lose my 50 dollars. If you can get your hands on a nice healthy one then buy it because they are great monitors.

if they get bigger, then why have i seen so many websites/ppl say that WT's are often smaller? But I am starting to lean more towards a Sav since they get alittle smaller and are more widley available. Plus the cage would be smaller also, wouldnt have to have a 10' cage, just a 6-7'.

Hey there is this your first monitor? If you want to get something that does not get too big get an ackie. Savs can get rather big if youre looking to have something small ackies are great calm and small which is what your emphasizing. Black throats generally do get bigger than whites, there are always exceptions when one gets bigger than the other.

hope this helps, but if it is your first monitor get a cb ackie that way you dont have to deal with problems that wc come with, which you by your responces and post dont seem to be ready for.

well, this is my first monitor, but i do want a semi big-big monitor. Also, i love the short snouts of the Bosc and Ionide. I also will be allowing it to crawl around my room and house when i am home and hopefully if i'm lucky, i'll get one that will eventually beomce "tame" with much work. I dont really want an ackie and i have looked into Tegus, but the Savs, BTs, and WTs are the only ones i'm interested in that seem to be able to be handable and free-roaming.

I also like the looks of the Salvator and Argus monitors, but the Salvs get to big and the Argus from what i've heard doesnt like ppl all that much.

Try argus flavi crosses, not as aggressive as argus and stay relatively smaller than the argus I have a pair, and a pair of pure flavis great animals and there are some in the classifieds for sale at very decent prices.....might look into that

i have argus/flavi crosses as well, awesome lizards, i have a trio that i keep in a 200 gal. stock tank, i have had them in it since day one, and now they are all about 30-34" from 13" since May. Awesome to watch very entertaining, eat anything fairly simiple to care for, keep them hot, full, and clean with plenty of stuff to dig in.

they are a little flighty when small, but mine are calming down day by day.

There are some WT local populations that get large also, 5-6ft in length or more, it has to do with originating closer to the equator, some at higher altitudes etc. Tanzanian WTs get larger, Sienna Leguaans (sienna colored WTs) get larger (5ft or so). BT males have grown to 7ft 3 inches, females get large also (Ill find out in the coming years how big they can get as my BT/WT/WT cross is now 6ft 3inches long and 28lbs, yet she is under 3 years old). Sobek has the physical size of a BT, some pattern from both, and colors from both. My male BT/WT cross has the physical characteristics from the banded WT (his father) as size goes at 4ft and over 10 lbs at just under 4 years old. He has the build and body shape of the banded WT except the head is a bit different (like a BT), he also has colors and patterns of both.
Argus can get big also, heres a good friends male at 5ft and 15lbs, the female here layed an infertile clutch before he brought her home from her former owner (he was showed the eggs), shes 3ft 2 inches and alot lighter.

This is a few months old pic of my big female cross..

This is Blaize, a friend of mine raised him but due to neck surgery says he cannot properly care for him as he would like to, hes giving him to me after I can set a cage up for him, Blaize is around 2.5 ro so years old and 5ft about 15lbs..

This is a male 3year old cape banded WT named Zeus, hes a bit more than 3ft long, hes a Frank Retes baby.

This is Shadow my male BT/WT cross..

Unfortunately it is almost impossible anymore to get CBB WTs except from FR, or BTs from a handful of others, true CBB animals are expensive. As far as CBB bosc good luck there are a few with eggs incubating now, lets hope for the best, they will also be very expensive (a few hundred $). Its worth the price though, the cage Im building for Sobek as comparison cost me at this point over $600 in materials, not including lighting, dirt, water dish, etc, I expect it to cost around $700 when done, not including my time. The cage is 22/32 plywood with .090 FRP lining it, its 10x5x4 (had to reduce 2 measurements to build it in my new houses basement and get it up off of the floor). This new cage will have at least 2 basking spots with 4 bulbs each on adjustable height chain set-ups. Right now theres wood and FRP piled everywhere.

not sure where you can get a white throat but i know where you can get a pearl necklaces!!! sorry couldn't resist

Thanks guys for all the help. I've decided to get a Sav due their medium size and they still have the possiblity of possible tameness if worked with.

I cant handle a big BT/WT right now cause knowing my luck, i'd get a freak lizard that grows to 8' or something. Plus, i wouldnt have that much room to provide for a cage in my room. I could care for a Banded WT, but those are nearly impossible to find. Maybe when i get my own place I can get that Ionide i want since it'll have it's own room.

Now all i have to do is finish remodeling my room......

there's two in the classified right now