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It sure looks like it falls into the definition of a Miami corn to me so I would think, yes.
Of course, I am not sure if they have to actually have some traceable lineage to wild Miami area corns or just the "look" to be considered Miamis but otherwise I still go with yes.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

I have been thinking the same. She is 1 year old. I bought her from a dealer who had her labled as a normal. I do not know the breeder.
But i want to breed her, so i think i will look for a miami male.
sincerly,
Chuck

Chuck:
Your pic. of your "Miami", is actually an outcross. She looks "maily" like Miami, but she has traits that depict her
cross-breeding. She was listed as a "normal" when you bought
her, because the breeder probably crossed a normal and a Miami
in breeding. That would make your female a normal-het./Miami.
All offspring of hers would be normal/het., etc., depending on
what you bred her to! (ie: creamsicle/het. Miami & normal).
Yours is nicer than the outcross I bought! (I'm selling her-she looks too much toward "normal" line.
Northernstar

Isn't "Miami Phase" simply a flavor of "Normal" same as "Okeetee"?

In other words it either depicts animals that can trace thier genetic background to a particular location OR animals that have pattern and or coloration that fit the viewer's definition of "Miami" phase or Okeetee" phase?

If this is the case, then I don't see how anything can be "Het Miami".......or am I wrong about this..........???

Thanks,

David

>>Isn't "Miami Phase" simply a flavor of "Normal" same as "Okeetee"?
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>>In other words it either depicts animals that can trace thier genetic background to a particular location OR animals that have pattern and or coloration that fit the viewer's definition of "Miami" phase or Okeetee" phase?
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>>If this is the case, then I don't see how anything can be "Het Miami".......or am I wrong about this..........???
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>>Thanks,
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>>David

David,
You are right. Miami is a normal phase like an okeetee. They can not be het Miami or Okeetee.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Since there are no simple recessive genetics involved in making Miamis (hence a snake cannot be "het for miami", the only thing you can go by is the look of the animal. Does it meet the classic definition of "miami phase" or not?

Here is the test I use for such things. I ask myself, "If I bought a miami sight-unseen from a breeder, and they sent me THIS snake, would I be disappointed when I opened the box?" If so, then it is not a miami; if not, label it miami and breed it for that look.

So, you have to ask yourself that question, it seems to me. For me ... well,it's not really my place to say. What really matters is what YOU think, isn't it?
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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742