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I have always known that my Ghost Corns are Odd, they are super light with Blue Colored Eyes and have more pinkish Lavender Color then any other snake I have seen, But the Red eye thing throws me. There is not a speck of Black Color on them, so I ask the group, could they be a different form of Albino/Amel.
Take a look and tell me what you think.
Thanks

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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

This is my Favorite snake of this season, Super Cool Striped/Cubed Blue Eyed Ghost Corn, and yes he has red eyes too.

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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

This is one of my two favorite Keepers from last year, A Striped Blue Eyed Ghost Corn

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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

I can't remember if you posted their history before or not, but the only thing that comes to mind (since there are no current mutations for such a thing) is that it could possibly be a new mutant. One that strikes me as similar is the "pink eye" gene in mice, which causes them to have red/pink eyes, but also really affects their ground coloration by lightening it.
Could it be at all possible that your ghosts may be the first known with such a gene in corn snakes?
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"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."
J.R.R. Tolkien

I showed them to Kathy Love when I got a Caramel Corn from her and she mentioned that Dom at SMR had it on his Ghosts too, I was hoping he might have some thoughts on, if there was even a speck of black on the ghosts I would not think it to be An Albino of some sort, but there is not, not even a hint so I am thinking T or some sort of different strain, of course I won't pay the lab money needed to prove a T Albino and talking with Kathy there has only been one proven T tested animal (I forget what it was) But all the others are simply based on theroy of it. Who know, I just think they are cool looking snakes LOL
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

. . . .

SDF
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

Ask this on the "other" forum...
they seem to be a lot more hip over there to the different strains of hypo, and I seem to remember someone saying it's the Ultra hypo line that creates the ruby eyed ghosts.
Have you bred this line to any other hypos? I think that would be your clue as to whether it's a different hypo gene or not.
Kris

...I picked up a pair of ghosts last year who have that ruby-eye thing going on. They were listed as 'frosted ghosts' and were supposedly incompatible with hypoA. Since they're not adults, obviously I can't do test pairings yet, but they have the same lack of black pigment as yours do.

-Kat
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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

I did not realize that all the different names for the hypos were not compatiable with each other (I gotta Start paying more attention to you corn snake folks instead of the Boa guys LOL)I had just assumed that the different names for the Hypos were simply influenced by the different corn snake localities and line breeding. I get at least 4 different looking Hypos from this lot, with different colors and belly marks. Some have Bleed over that cause the bellies of the snakes to turn orange on the back half of the snakes with no belly checks at all, the Anerys from the same group turn silver grey in the back half? The whole group is wierd LOL
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

Here's some info to get you back in the loop.

There are 4 verified types of hypos, which are incompatible with one another:
HypoA - the standard hypo we've had for years
Sunkissed (HypoB) - Kathy Love strain from her oketees
Lava (Trans) - Joe Pierce strain which is markedly different from other hypos
Ultra - The homozygous form of this gene doesn't look very different from the standard hypo... however it appears to be codominant and is possibly an allele with amelanism. Animals which are het ultra, het amel have a distinct look to them which is somewhere inbetween.

And then there are a gazillion forms of hypo out there which have NOT been verified and may just be new names of old morphs, or could be entirely new. Breeding trials are still in progress. This list includes Dream hypo, Pumpkin, Christmas, Tequila Sunrise, Frosted hypo, and probably many others...

-Kat
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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

qrg
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

Red irises? No, Ive never hatched a ghost with red irises (ie: eyes).
Red pupils? Yes, every ghost and ghost motley I've hatched has had red pupils.

The darker ghosts having a 'ruby' colour to the pupil, and the lighter ghosts having a lighter shade of red to their pupils.

If I had to guess, and I'm only guessing, your ghosts are just really light examples of ghosts and ghosts motleys/stripes.

Remember too that the motley and stripe genes have a hypo 'effect' of their own that could be influencing a lighter eye colour, and overall lighter colouration.

Is the normally patterned ghost you posted a hatchling from your ghost motley or ghost stripe lines? Ghosts het motley I've hatched from a ghost het motley to an anery motley het hypo have been lighter than any ghosts I've hatched NOT from motley lines.

Either way, those are some suh-weeeeet ghosts you have. Congrats.

BB

The Normal One is a banded Ghost which is also from the Motley gene so that may explain a lot of it. thanks for the info
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com