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We had our first Kid's Club meeting of the season (we don't do it during the summer) and the topic was Snakes. I took my two corns, Mysty and Suezo, and they were a big hit. Here are some photos...

Mysty

Mysty

Baby Suezo

Baby Suezo

They also got to play with my BP, Slytherin

and my Sand Boa, Fang

I brought a baby Eastern Milk and some baby Smooth Green snakes too but they were just for looking at. I was glad I did not let them handle the Eastern milk, I took her out to show her to them and she latched onto my finger pretty good. I still have a mark. Unfortunately, one of the children (pictured above with my BP) got bit by someone else's Corn snake. I was amazed at how many puncture wounds the poor kid ended up with. Wow. He was crying but then calmed down enough to handle my snakes again. The snake that bit him has been doing demos for many years and the kid was handling him very gently. Just goes to show you never do know what they are going to do. I was glad the experience did not make him afraid of snakes permanently. It was a bad bite (on the fleshy area between his thumb and first finger) and could have easily left him with a fear of snakes, but he got right "back in the saddle" which was great.

On a non snake topic, meet the newest member of my animal family. This little guy is just 4 days old, I got him yesterday after Kid's Club. He is a Mountain Horned Dragon. Isn't he adorable?

He's just a little guy...

This is a picture of his mom. My friends adopted her a few months ago not realizing she was gravid. She laid 12 eggs shortly after they got her. They actually thought it was a boy until "he" laid the eggs LOL... They figured the eggs were not fertile since the guy they adopted her from did not have any males. They put the eggs into a container just in case, and sure enough all 12 eggs hatched!

Mom...

Hope you liked the pics!!!
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Lyns Lair
Frogwatch USA
WNY Herpetological Society

0.1 Cat (Mia)
4.2 Ferrets (Wolf, Shadow, Verdell, Sullivan, Boo, Peach)
1.0 Carpet Python (Bear)
1.0 Malagasy Blonde Hognose Snake (Wilbur)
1.0 Yellow / Everglades Rat Snake (Pumpkin)
1.0 Russian Sand Boa (Fang)
0.1 Normal Corn Snake (Mysty)
1.0 Anery Corn Snake (Suezo)
0.0.3 Eastern Milk Snakes (Uno, Dos, Tres)
1.0 Ball Python (Slytherin)
2.0 Smooth Green Snakes (no names yet)
0.1 Golden Greek Tortoise (Sunshine)
0.2 Mississippi Mud Turtles (Squirt & Shyanne)
1.0 Green Iguana (Norbert)
1.0 Bearded Dragon (Tank)
0.0.1 Mountain Horned Dragon (working on a name)
1.0 Whites Tree Frog (Trevor)
2.0 Solomon Island Eyelash Frogs (Chompy & Gimli)
0.1 American Toad (Bump)
1.0 AFT Gecko (Cocoa)
5.5 Leopard Geckos (Trouble, Scooter, Simba, Firenze, Teddy, Mystique, Freckles, Dotty, Zipper, Twister)

Love the photos. they are great! I have a jungle carpet python whose former owner was a school teacher so she is pretty docile. But, I'm always cautious when handling her or any of my snakes.

Lynn,
That is cool to introduce the kids to the snakes. It is also great that the one who was bitten jumped right back in and handled the snakes again.
Now, that's a future snake owner!!!
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Reptile did an article on them a few months back if you need any more info on them. It was a good article (something reptiles is lacking latley) and almost made me want to get one, I had no idea that they were so small though, I pictures and adult about the same size as a water dragon, I guess not LOL.
Nice work with the kids, the teeth from the bite may have broke the skin, but not much pain, more of a shock of being biten, I have actually gotten my corns to bite me to show the kids that it does not hurt, the 4-5 month old hatchlings are great for that.
Thanks
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

I thought I had seen an article but looked through a bunch of issues and could not find it. Do you know what month the article was in? Yes, they are fairly small, they get about a foot long. They take lower temps than most lizards. Only mid to upper 70s or lower 80s at the highest. Supposedly they tolerate handling very well. The baby sure had no problem with it. Did not try to jump or run away, just sat on my finger looking around.

As for the bite, the problem was that the snake not only bit, but then chewed a bit. It was a full grown Corn, and quite a large one at that.

In fact, I think it might be the 'freakishly large' corn snake that Dave posted about a few months ago and nobody really believed him that a Corn would get that big. The former owner was feeding it 6 mice a week and I guess it was insanely big according to the current owner. I'm trying to get photos but the current owner doesn't know if he has any from back then. They reduced it's diet and it's lost weight to the point that it is now a normal weight for it's length. Maybe that's why he's grumpy!
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Lyns Lair
Frogwatch USA
WNY Herpetological Society

0.1 Cat (Mia)
4.2 Ferrets (Wolf, Shadow, Verdell, Sullivan, Boo, Peach)
1.0 Carpet Python (Bear)
1.0 Malagasy Blonde Hognose Snake (Wilbur)
1.0 Yellow / Everglades Rat Snake (Pumpkin)
1.0 Russian Sand Boa (Fang)
0.1 Normal Corn Snake (Mysty)
1.0 Anery Corn Snake (Suezo)
0.0.3 Eastern Milk Snakes (Uno, Dos, Tres)
1.0 Ball Python (Slytherin)
2.0 Smooth Green Snakes (no names yet)
0.1 Golden Greek Tortoise (Sunshine)
0.2 Mississippi Mud Turtles (Squirt & Shyanne)
1.0 Green Iguana (Norbert)
1.0 Bearded Dragon (Tank)
0.0.1 Mountain Horned Dragon (working on a name)
1.0 Whites Tree Frog (Trevor)
2.0 Solomon Island Eyelash Frogs (Chompy & Gimli)
0.1 American Toad (Bump)
1.0 AFT Gecko (Cocoa)
5.5 Leopard Geckos (Trouble, Scooter, Simba, Firenze, Teddy, Mystique, Freckles, Dotty, Zipper, Twister)

I will look for it in the morning, it has been within the last 3-4 months and I have every copy ever printed.
Thanks
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

I think you are referring to the horned lizard issue from January. It only has North American horned lizards and not the horned dragons. I thought the same thing but when I looked thats all I could find.

EP
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Occupants not paying rent:
16 eggs incubating
7 balls
2.2 corns(candy cane, creamsicle, ghost, normal)
1 pueblan milk
1 everglades rat
1 cal. king
1 gray band king
1 w. hognose
1 bearded dragon
2 fish
1 rat
1 mouse
5 cats

It was the cover animal in October 2003, let me know if you have it, if not I can try and figure out how to scan it and send it to you.
Good Luck
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
Hopkins Holesale Herps
Hopfam1@aol.com

I just didn't go back far enough then, I have all of them from 2003 so I'll take a look. Thanks!

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Lyns Lair
Frogwatch USA
WNY Herpetological Society

0.1 Cat (Mia)
4.2 Ferrets (Wolf, Shadow, Verdell, Sullivan, Boo, Peach)
1.0 Carpet Python (Bear)
1.0 Malagasy Blonde Hognose Snake (Wilbur)
1.0 Yellow / Everglades Rat Snake (Pumpkin)
1.0 Russian Sand Boa (Fang)
0.1 Normal Corn Snake (Mysty)
1.0 Anery Corn Snake (Suezo)
0.0.3 Eastern Milk Snakes (Uno, Dos, Tres)
1.0 Ball Python (Slytherin)
2.0 Smooth Green Snakes (no names yet)
0.1 Golden Greek Tortoise (Sunshine)
0.2 Mississippi Mud Turtles (Squirt & Shyanne)
1.0 Green Iguana (Norbert)
1.0 Bearded Dragon (Tank)
0.0.1 Mountain Horned Dragon (working on a name)
1.0 Whites Tree Frog (Trevor)
2.0 Solomon Island Eyelash Frogs (Chompy & Gimli)
0.1 American Toad (Bump)
1.0 AFT Gecko (Cocoa)
5.5 Leopard Geckos (Trouble, Scooter, Simba, Firenze, Teddy, Mystique, Freckles, Dotty, Zipper, Twister)