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well i brought all three to the vet today....heres what happend

Ralph went in as a checkup and a fecal, he was fine other than pinworms and coccidia, and i was prescribed some oral suspension panacur and a 0.15 cc ditrim injection for 8 days

Cheech went in because of the sore on her back and for a checkup, and it turned out other than the sore she was healthy, and the blister thing was not infected, and i got a cream for her blister. She also had a fecal done and had coccidia and pinworms, and was prescribed oral suspension panacur and .01 cc ditrim injection for 8 days.

Artemis was brought in for a possible eggbinding and a checkup. She was givin a calcium injection and a vitamin a-d-e injection. She was prescribed panacur for pinworms, even with no fecal....hmmm....oh well. Otherwise she was healthy. Is this seem normal?

WOW the bill was over 250 dollars....dont undere3stimate the costs of the damn vet!!! lol

well i also have a question, since the panacur might kill all good bacteria in my beardies, can i also get a needle-less syringe full of yogurt with acidopholus to restore the good stuff and inject that in their mouth also? THANKS all
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~David - KDRKreatures
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1.2 Bearded dragons (Ralph, Artemis, Cheech)
1.0 Veiled Chameleon (Chiquito)
1.0 Ringneck Snake (Striker)
1.1 Eastern Box Turtles (Athena and Mercury)

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it was about your dragon and yellow fungus. you might want to read up on it and keep that dragon seperate from your others although they have already been together it doesnt hurt to start now. ill try and find the post...........

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=57307,57960

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=57307,58004

those are the links...i think you need to keep all of these dragons seperated until they come back with clean fecals and you find out what that "blister" is for certian. Wash your hands very very well between dragons and anything you handle from one to the other.

isnt the ditrim an intramuscular injection? who will be giving this injection?

i would think that the panacur would be enough to treat the pin worms, the ditrim, if i remember, is a sulpha sort of drug and is being used for the coccidia in your dragons. Seems like a lot to be given all at once... hrmm... CheriS??? using one to treat the pinworms i imagine would in turn decrease the amount of coccidia? maybe? and if not can the coccidia not be treated afterwards orally with something like Albon? just checking.. hope you can help here.......

be sure to keep your dragons well hydrated dmlove, its really important while they are on their meds...

::sigh:: well, here goes.

The panacur is a good choice and one dose is usually sufficient to rid them of pinworms and a follow up dose 10 days to 2 weeks later. This is not hard on them, easy to administer and rare are any side effects to bearded dragons.

now, about the coccidia, did he tell you the field count? or if they had it mild or loaded? Minimal amount of coccidia are considered normal in bearded dragons and not a problem, especially older dragons (since one was being seen for possible egg binding I am assuming they are older) the dragons own system keeps them in balance..... its only when there are other factors going on and they increase that a dragon should be treated.

And then... there are several oral meds that do the job and supported with other methods like cleaning and probiotics, they should weather is fine. If they have a mild load, cleaning and good heat and diet will lower the count withing 2 weeks to a month. Dragons are animals that stress can greatly affect and even kill them.

Moderate load usually do need Meds. Refer to the expects like Mader or Klingenberg who recommend Albon, sulfamethazine or trimeth compounds orally. Someone would have to really hold me down to give my dragons an injection daily for several days for coccidia and then be able to run fast when I got loose!

IM drugs are given when they are overwhelming loaded and the animals health is greatly compromised, the stress at that point outweights the risk. IM drugs are stronger to cure a problem and can be used for a lesser duration, but also they are stronger on adversly affecting a dragon... so you have to weight the choices

My Vet would have charged the following for anyone, not just me.
Office visit $20 each $60
Panacur $3 each $9
Coccidia meds $5 each $15
Calcium/vit IM $10 $10
Creme (lamisil?)10 a tube $10
Fecals $10 $30

TOTAL $134
Then discount for multiples-13
Final Total $121

Granted I am in FLorida and they do change less here than in Northern states.... but not that much.

They are of course your dragons and you have to decide if you felt comfortable with the treament, diagnoses and Meds prescribed.

This is why I love having so many referrence books from experts that deal with Bearded Dragon medical and email contact with some. Those charges are outrageous and I hope your dragons can handle the medication treatment....

I also assume he advised you on the support methods to use with them while on these meds?

i didnt mean to drag you into it, but just sounded odd to me and thought to ask you as you would know.. thanks for the breakdown on everything..=]

don't want to hear when it conflicts their vets advise and I feel sometimes it is better to avoid answering..... I am not a vet, I do research on some health issues with bearded dragons and write medical papers on them that some Vets use.

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recommends 3 days in a row, followed by every other day for 2 weeks. repeating this if needed after a fecal retest.

Others use 5 days straight, 10 days straight and I have seen some say their vets used two weeks. I think some of it may have to do with the parasite load.

isnt she just a young dragon? just curious, be careful to keep her from your male, she has a lot of growing left to do....she doesnt even need to see your male at this point, keep the stress level as low as possible, as well for the other female staying with you. be sure your male is out of sight and the females are out of his sight. hope they get to feeling better soon

but i thought she was stimulated by the male....im DEFINATLY taking your guys advices, i trust you guys a lot
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~David - KDRKreatures
My Main Herps-
1.2 Bearded dragons (Ralph, Artemis, Cheech)
1.0 Veiled Chameleon (Chiquito)
1.0 Ringneck Snake (Striker)
1.1 Eastern Box Turtles (Athena and Mercury)

KDRKreatures-Home Page
My Email