Does anyone know anyone besides Gregg's Reptile Basement that breeds normally patterned axanthic subocularis? I asked him, but he did not tell me who he got them from. His will not be available until '06.
Don Soderberg and Dave Barker did not even know when I asked them. Apparently there are very few breeders of this rare but naturally occuring morph.
Don said that of the 200-300 subocs that he has caught, only two or three were normal silvers.
Somebody has got to have some. Any help would be profusely appreciated.
Thanks,
Dusty
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Normally patterned silver suboc question
dustyrhoads
Oct 06, 2004 11:43 AM
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silvano_06095
Oct 07, 2004 06:07 PM
I've never even heard of normally patterned axanthics... I didn't even think that there were any.
Then again, I also wasn't aware that silvers could be at all easily found in the wild, either.
Can you ask Gregg if he'd come here and post a photo or two of his normal-patterned silvers? I'd love to see them.
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Aaron
Oct 08, 2004 01:31 AM
I have 1 wild caught normal pattern silver female from Black Gap that Ric Blair and I collected. She produced 8 eggs from a breeding with a normal male, also from Black Gap.
I also have 1 wild caught normal pattern silver male from the Christmas Mtns. I had thought it was a female and was keeping it with a pair of normals from the Christmas Mtns. but found out it wasn't when I saw it copulating with the normal female. The normal female laid 6 eggs but I don't know who the father is.
Neither of these snakes has ever produced before and this is my first time breeding subocs. I have the eggs at 83 degrees, is that a good temperature for subocs?
The picture is an old pic I took of the silver Black Gap and a normal Christmas Mtns. Most people who have seen it (the pic) say it just looks like a light normal. It must be the pic because believe me I have seen probably close to 150 subocs in 9 years of hunting Graybands in TX and it is definitly not a light normal. In person there is no doubt it is a silver. Whether it proves genetic remains to be seen. Same goes for the silver Christmas, which is not pictured, except it is more a grayish silver whereas the Black Gap is a lighter silver.
