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As was discussed in the thread below, there are a few "hypoerythristic" pyros that have been called "anerys" although the term is imprecise, just as "anery" is imprecise for hypoerythristic hondurans, though there are hundreds of those and the "anery" term has been used almost exclusively to describe them (I shared Louis Porras' observations on that subject in my Sept 2002 Reptiles Magazine article, and argued for the adoption of the term "hypoerythristics" for the hondurans; i've tried to adhere to that but admit to having been inconsistent myself: right or wrong, if people don't know what you're talking about when you use the right term, it doesn't lead to good communication. I sometimes think it's fruitless.)

Nevertheless...in the spirit of the Princely rock music world...

I'd like to propose the morph formerly known as the "anerythristic" pyro be called by the proper term, "hypoerythristic."

Further...

In the past, we've used the term "hypo" as shorthand for hypomelanistic pyros. That's no longer useful, since there are now hypoMELANISTIC pyros and hypoERYTHRISTIC pyros.

I'd like to propose that in the future we either use the full terms--hypomelanistic and hypoerythristic--OR, in the quest for brevity, use the terms hypo-m and hypo-e.

What do you think?

LATER we can discuss what to call those pale hypos that popped up in my collection this summer (see thread above)

peace
terry

Hi terry,
Either way, using the full name or usinf hypo-M and hypo-E is great too, it does make it easy so you dont have to use the full term all the time. But, if you soem of the pale hypos from this year were produced from a BHB hypo, then wouldnt they be just that..?, BHB hypos..?, but just better examples of them..?, the one labled "pale" that came to me, is from the hypo het-albino male x 059 female-(dh hybino female BHB line), so it makes it a BHb hypo,plus poss. het-albino. Anyways, the temrs you described are good, I think I ahve 1 on my site labled het-anery, and 1 labled het-hypoethrystic, gotta change the oen, I too think that using anery. for the hypo-E pyros is not a good idea, casue its defitnley got orange pigment, it basucally just looks like a faded orange pyro. Good points here too though,
jeff teel

I am in full agreement that 'anery' should not be used to describe these animals and I would agree with the change for the hondos as well. Using the full name would simplify clarity but not the fingers while typing. I like the brevity of Hypo-m and Hypo-e for conversations such as this and when posting animals for sale the entire name could be used. I think the key thing is for all to be on the same page! Thanks for the thread

Matt Woodhall

I think that especially seeing it is a new snake that is noticeably NOT anery than we should attempt to correctly name it. Even if it is harder to spell out and more of a mouthful. I always remembered that article in Reptiles mentioning that and only rarely does it seem to come up in conversation. I always call the Hondos Anery like most people do all the time, yet I know they're the Hypo-erythristic. If this catches on with the Pyros' name than maybe more people will start using the proper name for the Hondos? Now to add a question.........will a TRUE Anery Hondo ever surface? Could the Ghost possibly be a true Anery? I have only seen one in person so I don't know if many Ghosts have any red/pink/orange? Tom Stevens