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I bought this animal over a year ago when all of those supposed Ecuadorian imports came in. At that time and since, I have seen posts here and heard lots of people say these animals originated in Peru. I've also seen them sold as peruvians. I sure would like to know their true origin.

Regardless, they are beautiful animals, very differnet from my Iquitos bloodline and very different from other Peruvian locales that I have seen.

Sorry for the bad pic, she wouldn't sit still but the PIC did a decent job of capturing her color.

Anyone think they have the real scoop on all of those ecuadorians that cam into the count a year and a half or so ago?

Mark

On previous post meant to ask "came into the country", my keyboard skills stink.

I have some of those and they are nice snakes. After watching them for a while I have come to the conclusion that they are not Peru boas and must be from Ecvuador or some other place.. they are similar, but different from Perus I've seen.

Nobody knows anything about Ecuador boas and Peru animals were hot when those started coming in. so VOILA! we have new Peru boas.. it is an example of unscrupulous marketing (in my opinion) if there is proof they are not from where the permit says they are from, let's see it.

Myself, I like them and am happy to have Ecuador redtails.

Gus

about their look being different from any other Peruvian boas. They are unique, quite different from any other locale I've seen. Color, pattern, and head(more blocky) and neck (thicker not so offset from the head) shape are different and stand out in my eyes. Any other differences that you have noticed?

Mark

Its the other way around.....
A company in california brought them in and sold them as amazon basin boas ,dealers that deal with her bought them. Well sorry to burst your bubble but they were said to be coming out of ecuador because the importing company didnt want people (competition) to know they were in fact peruvian boas. and that peru was open for farmed boas, or so they say.
They come out of PERU.
NOT ECUADOR.
I have seen the paperwok associated with these "ecuadorian" boas
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"Quality isn't Quality without customer service so I guess I sell quality"

.. there was a deception to cover a fact that may be in question because somebody wanted to keep a secret to make money.. Friend, I haven't got a bubble.. but if you think that is all Ok and standard business practice.. you do have one. .

I'm saying those boas are different, morphologically and behaviorally, from known Peru stock I've seen.. if they are Peru boas great.. but that is yet to be shown. Don't come after me because the secrecy and deception is coming back around.

Have fun, be safe..
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Gus
A. Rentfro
RioBravoReptiles.com
www.riobravoreptiles.com

"Quality is not an accident. Perfectly healthy animals are a minimum requirement.. everything else is just salesmanship" gus

Well the bubble I was refering to was the idea that it seemed you had that they were pure ecuadorians from the several posts I have read.
Sorry But I have not sold or bought one so I am not part of the deception.
Secondly, I have even peronsally talked to the exporter of these boas and he is 1005 based in PERU.
Not ecuador.
Someone along the line also said that since they are amazon basin, hey they must be ecuadorian since they look like peruvian boas and peru is clasoed which is misinformation.
They were originally sold as AMAZON BASIN BOAS, not ecuadorian, not peruvian, not anything but AMAZON BASIN BOAS. With CITIES paperwork from PERU, and 3-177 declaration cleared with PERUVIAN paperwork.
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"Quality isn't Quality without customer service so I guess I sell quality"

>>I bought this animal over a year ago when all of those supposed Ecuadorian imports came in. At that time and since, I have seen posts here and heard lots of people say these animals originated in Peru. I've also seen them sold as peruvians. I sure would like to know their true origin.
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>>Regardless, they are beautiful animals, very differnet from my Iquitos bloodline and very different from other Peruvian locales that I have seen.
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>>Sorry for the bad pic, she wouldn't sit still but the PIC did a decent job of capturing her color.
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>>Anyone think they have the real scoop on all of those ecuadorians that cam into the count a year and a half or so ago?
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>>Mark
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Thanks for the post Mark and thanks for the additional information Mike (MnR). We purchased 36 animals from three different shipments. They were all being sold as "Amazon Basin Redtails" or "Equadorian" boas. We mainly purchased males only to incorporate some new blood into our Peruvian boas. We selected animals with the characteristics that we desire;ie:thin saddles, lack of speckling, long tails, etc. After personally talking with the various suppliers, we were confident we were receiving the real deal. When the boas arrived, we knew immediately what we had.

Happy herping,
Stacy Cagle

I got one from Chris Robinson at Gen-X, he sold it as Amazon Basin but also implied it was Peruvian. Awesome boa, very clean unlike most Peruvians.. great head type, it is proportionately much larger than than most other BCC. I've only had him for about 8 months. But my female, which was also sold as Amazon Basin, has a paper trail all the way back to Bill Parks- I have yet to discuss it with him but maybe I'll get to it. I see yours has the rainbow colored sides that both mine do, very good dorsal-to-lateral fading. I don't much like the indoor pictures I've taken of them, always makes them appear more gray. This is one of the few shot I've taken(poorly) of the female outside, as you can see, she is quite yellow. A great line of boas. I've seen a few Ecuadorians that look more like BCI than a BCC.. but these Amazon Basins are clearly closely allied with Peru.
Later-
Matt Schubarth
Pet Nebula
2100 Stephens #116
Missoula, Montana 59801
406 541 9929

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