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My new female.Thanks Terry.Outstanding baird.

Congrats on the new girl. I got dibs on a male from the first clutch right?
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0.0.1 Amel Motley Corn (Cosmo '03)
0.1 Baird's ratsnake (Sugaree '04)
1.1 Shepherd mix (Dylan 5yrs, Porter 7 months)

Not many young ones that look that good - very impressive.

Hey Paul,
congrats on the new bairdi. She is a beauty.
Great pics of the male.
They should produce some very nice little bairdis !!!!
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

I've seen it most commonly called E. (formerly P.) Bairdi, however a lot of people leave off the last i. Which is correct? Also when pluralized...is the bairdis or bairds? And how is the pronounciation? I've been told it's baird, where you dont pronounce the last i...or is it something different?

Thanks,
Chris
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -George Carlin

A fool doesn't learn. A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Which one are you?

My Website
Rat/Corn snake care sheet I wrote

Current snakes:
0.1 Licorice Stick Black Rat (Lola)
1.0 Neonate Black Rat (het for Lic Stk's) (Frankie)
1.1 Texas Bairds (Jose and Rosa)
0.1 Blue Beauty (Brunhilde)

>>I've seen it most commonly called E. (formerly P.) Bairdi, however a lot of people leave off the last i. Which is correct? Also when pluralized...is the bairdis or bairds? And how is the pronounciation? I've been told it's baird, where you dont pronounce the last i...or is it something different?
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>>Thanks,
>>Chris
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I am probably wrong but it used to be Elaphe bairdi and now it has changed to pantherophis.
But when the change went from Elaphe guttatta to Pantherophis the guttata changed to guttatus ( I beleive that is correct, I do know guttata changed)
This leads me to wonder if bairdi changed with pantherophis.
For now I just call them Bairds rat snakes or bairdi.
Once again I am probably wrong but I pronounce bairdi as baird-e. long e
I actually use bairdi more often as singular and bairdis as plural.
For example...this is a repeat photo of my female bairdi, Rosie

and this is a repeat photo of my bairdis intertwined.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

just showin 'em off again...lol. well i still love to see 'em lol.
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -George Carlin

A fool doesn't learn. A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Which one are you?

My Website
Rat/Corn snake care sheet I wrote

Current snakes:
0.1 Licorice Stick Black Rat (Lola)
1.0 Neonate Black Rat (het for Lic Stk's) (Frankie)
1.1 Texas Bairds (Jose and Rosa)
0.1 Blue Beauty (Brunhilde)

>>They are beautiful snakes and those are two of my favorite pictures.
Not to mention the fact that each time I show them I might just get another person to think about getting their own.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

>>I've seen it most commonly called E. (formerly P.) Bairdi, however a lot of people leave off the last i. Which is correct? Also when pluralized...is the bairdis or bairds? And how is the pronounciation? I've been told it's baird, where you dont pronounce the last i...or is it something different?

The "correct" name is Pantherophis bairdi. I believe bairdi will stay the same because I believe a specific epithet that is a Latinized name doesn't have to take on the gender of the genus. A specific epithet that is an adjective (like guttata) does however.

As for the colloquial/hobbyist's name, they are generally called Baird's Rats or just Baird's. I generally have heard Baird's used for both the singular and plural.

When pronouncing the specific epithet, most people I have heard called them baird-I, with a long I.
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Chris Harrison

Nice explanation Chris. I might add that scientific names should be in italics, but that probably is more important in books, articles, etc.

Terry Parks

do you actually pronounce them Baird-I
as opposed to Baird-E?
bairdE just seems to roll off the tounge easier then bairdI
Maybe I should just stick to call them baird or bairds....lol
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

We have a place called Bairds optical here.Pronounced bards.I get corrected constantly because that's what I call them.It's even worse when I call them bardees.As for latin names well that would be another story.I have to master English first.

>>do you actually pronounce them Baird-I
>>as opposed to Baird-E?
>>bairdE just seems to roll off the tounge easier then bairdI
>>Maybe I should just stick to calling them baird or bairds....lol
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Maybe we should use/adopt Vivid's name for them.
Metallic Rat Snake
Very fitting name for the look.
I like it anyway.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Speaking of vivid....very reputable?

Anyone deal with them?

I like their site and in depth explanations of things.....and have placed an order.....For none other that the METALLICS

I was blown away with the fathers oranges and reds....the silver also helped....remarkable

I'm down with calling them metallics!!!!!!!!!!!

name upgrade?......why not?.....

keith
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I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts.

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Rich Hebron

Close, but the "i" ending is a Latin form of the name. If I remember my Latin declensions, it is a second declension noun ending that could be used for both the singular possessive form and the plural non-possessive form. Most second declension nouns are masculine if my memory serves me correct. Since the name of the snake is Bairds' Rat Snake (or Bairds' Ratsnake for our friends in the UK and Europe) a second declension masculine possessive ending only makes sense.

let's blame it all on him....ooops, I meant let's NAME them after him.
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phflame

>>let's blame it all on him....ooops, I meant let's NAME them after him.
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>>phflame

Yeah, that's the ticket..Draybar's rat snakes...yeah!!

I think Metallic Rat Snake sounds a little better...just a little mind you, but better......LOL
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

I forgot to post my obligatory baird picture.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)