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Breeding my veileds this week, EXPERTS'/EXPERIENCED KEEPERS' ADVICE PLZ

chunks_89 Oct 08, 2004 04:41 PM

I am breeding one of my two female veileds this week with my 14 month male veiled. I am looking to see when exactly I should breed her.

She laid a clutch of 35 infertile eggs the last week of July. The clutch before that was 34 eggs in the middle of April. The clutch before that was December 03'.

So far it looks like shes a pretty heavy egg-maker. I supplement with miner-all every three feedings, so once a week. I use vit-all gutload w/veggies and fruits. I use Calcimize water treatment which contains a tiny amount of calcium, which then gets ingested very rarely by this particular female (she has only had a drink from me maybe ten times in the 6 1/2 months that i've had her. 8.0 Reptiglo bulb.

I am thinking I should breed at the 2 1/2 month mark from her last clutch to avoid non-fertilization. She appears to have very hard-working ovaries, is in wonderful condition, and has been a DREAM to have lay infertile clutches (she laid wihtin 24 hours of starting, in her own plant pot, including a 12 hour sleep).

Even with the MINIMUM 15-day gestation period for veileds, this would allow for a full three month ( a few days or so) period between clutches. I am assuming she will take 25-35 days judging on egg-holding time with infertiles.

think I should breed her this week or in another week or so, cause a few days can make the difference!

Replies (4)

cricketscritters Oct 08, 2004 05:39 PM

You might as well go ahead & breed her if she's receptive. Veiled chameleons, like many other lizards, can retain the sperm. Good luck!
Cricket

chunks_89 Oct 08, 2004 08:50 PM

Thanks for your input but not really what I was looking for.
I know where you're comin from, im just askin for a good time to breed her, like i said a few days can make a huge difference.

mrcham Oct 09, 2004 07:01 AM

Im not sure what you are asking so i'll answer as best as i can
If you asking if a few days would matter on fertilization if/when she breeds? if so i beleive to breed the female the earlier the better After she is mature/old enough to lay as i have some that have laid all fertile on their first clutch and some that still lay infertile on their third!
the reason for people saying to wait to breed untill she lays first clutch is to ensure that she is indeed mature enough to handle the stresses of egg laying!
There are no set times for nature some females will lay eggs 22 days after breeding some will lay 27 days after while still another might not lay at all
On a side note over breeding can be quite taxing on a female
The rule of thumb is THE MORE YOU BREED THE SHORTER THE LIFESPAN of the female
I hope this helped?

chunks_89 Oct 09, 2004 11:09 AM

Yes a bit helpful, I knew most of that before but i just wanted to make sure she wouln't kill herself by laying eggs too soon to her other clutch, resulting in possible egg binding or overstress.

thanks for your reply, always appreciated

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