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what defines each (how is each created) ? Can an ablino produce a high contrast / can a high contrast produce an ablino?

What will an albino and a high contrast create?

Has either proved to be of more value in creating other morphs?

Thank you for your repsonses,

Here is my albino....

Sorry I cant help but I've wondered the same thing. I just recently bought a 100% het albino high contrast to breed in the future with my high contrast albino.

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1.0 Albino ball python (high contrast)
0.1 100% het Albino ball (high contrast)
0.1 Normal ball
1.0 Candy cane cornsnake
1.0 Golden Retriever pup
1.0 Ferret

i've heard that het for high contrast albinos are much lighter and nicer in color than normals. Is that true?
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0.1 "Tremper" looking Albino Leopard gecko (Lex)
0.0.1 tiger crested gecko (peachs)
0.1 Red blood python (Rhianon)
0.0.1 ball pythons (FELIX!!!!!)
2.1 Feral cats that we adopted (Fuzzy, Bear, and Tony)

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"scientia est vox"

They only look high contrast as babies. After a year they look the same. I don't see any justification to charge more for high contrast babies. There are some designer snakes that could eventually be actually considered high contrast, like the albino X orange ghost that NERD has created, and It would be interesting to see what a pastel X albino turns out like (if it looks any different at all from a regular albino) but time will tell on those. As it now stands, the so called high contrast albinos will fade within a year.

Mark

>>Many ???'s
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>>what defines each (how is each created) ? Can an ablino produce a high contrast / can a high contrast produce an ablino?
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>>What will an albino and a high contrast create?
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>>Has either proved to be of more value in creating other morphs?
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>>Thank you for your repsonses,
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>>Here is my albino....
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. I've seen many mature albinos that still appear high contrast and others which are a really faded yellow. The high contrast isn't as obvious as when they're are young, but clearly have more color than others.
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1.0 Albino ball python (high contrast)
0.1 100% het Albino ball (high contrast)
0.1 Normal ball
1.0 Candy cane cornsnake
1.0 Golden Retriever pup
1.0 Ferret

Well, Normal ball pythons are very variable in their looks so it's not surprising that Albinos would be variable too. But, what I'm saying is that all of the ones that I have seen that were high contrast as babies faded quite a bit as adults. But I certainly haven't seen it all so if you have any pictures of high contrast adults, I would love to see them.

Mark

>>I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. I've seen many mature albinos that still appear high contrast and others which are a really faded yellow. The high contrast isn't as obvious as when they're are young, but clearly have more color than others.
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>>1.0 Albino ball python (high contrast)
>>0.1 100% het Albino ball (high contrast)
>>0.1 Normal ball
>>1.0 Candy cane cornsnake
>>1.0 Golden Retriever pup
>>1.0 Ferret

In my opinion there is no difference, just people who want to try to sell their babies at a higher price. It is simply a marketing term. If you hatch out a few clutches of albinos, you'll see what I mean; there will be a few that are just a little more contrasty than the others, ie. the nicest ones. The only true high contrast albino in my opinion is the Lavender Albino.
Paul Edwards
Paul Edwards Reptiles

It gets peoples attention and makes people think they are getting more by paying more when in fact most albinos fade with age....just as pastels brown with age....
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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

This was taken directly from the NERD website "This strain of Albino is characterized by saffron yellow and opalescent white coloration. The contrast is sharper than that of a normal Albino, and the white and yellow pigments exhibit more depth of color. Mature High-Contrast Albinos maintain more distinction of pattern with little fading, remaining extremely attractive animals even into adulthood. A very impressive Albino! One must see this morph in person to grasp the distinction between “regular” Albinos and the High-Contrast type."

This photo is from the NERD website also.....clearly a distintion....

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1.0 Albino ball python (high contrast)
0.1 100% het Albino ball (high contrast)
0.1 Normal ball
1.0 Candy cane cornsnake
1.0 Golden Retriever pup
1.0 Ferret

photo from NERD

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1.0 Albino ball python (high contrast)
0.1 100% het Albino ball (high contrast)
0.1 Normal ball
1.0 Candy cane cornsnake
1.0 Golden Retriever pup
1.0 Ferret

That is a picture of a young animal. Look at the size of the cypress mulch in the background. That animal looks like a youngster to me.

Mark

>>This was taken directly from the NERD website "This strain of Albino is characterized by saffron yellow and opalescent white coloration. The contrast is sharper than that of a normal Albino, and the white and yellow pigments exhibit more depth of color. Mature High-Contrast Albinos maintain more distinction of pattern with little fading, remaining extremely attractive animals even into adulthood. A very impressive Albino! One must see this morph in person to grasp the distinction between “regular” Albinos and the High-Contrast type."
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>>This photo is from the NERD website also.....clearly a distintion....
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>>1.0 Albino ball python (high contrast)
>>0.1 100% het Albino ball (high contrast)
>>0.1 Normal ball
>>1.0 Candy cane cornsnake
>>1.0 Golden Retriever pup
>>1.0 Ferret

There is not much if any difference. You can get high contrast babies from a faded albino, and most fade considerably as they age, nomatter what. Sure there will be an exceptional adult here & there, but it doesn't mean all the offspring are going to carry the trait into adulthood. I think it will take many years to really consistantly produce all high contrast animals that will carry the trait into adulthood, and yes, I think it will happen eventually.
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Chad Bachman

Just because NERD says something that automatically makes it textbook? Remember they also happen to be a business who also try and sell their animals.....
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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

First off, if you go back to my original thread on this topic I clearly said, "I wondered the same thing, and I didn't have an answer," only an opinion. My albino is only is only 276 grams and a just over 3 months old, so I cant speak from experience. However he's just as bright as the day I got him. As for what they'll look like as adults, I can only go by what I see in others.
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1.0 Albino ball python (high contrast)
0.1 100% het Albino ball (high contrast)
0.1 Normal ball
1.0 Candy cane cornsnake
1.0 Golden Retriever pup
1.0 Ferret