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Does anyone know how to tell if a boa is a ........................................

ajfreptiles Oct 09, 2004 06:12 PM

Does anyone know how to tell if a boa is a het for albino or anery just by looking at them? I have heard that it is a greater chance they are het for albino if they have speckles alot on back, and also I heard they usually have a yellowish tint to them on back. Is there any validity to this?? Can anyone shed some light on this? How about anery hets? What do they usually have that sets them appart? Thanks Andrew Federico

By the way here is a pic of one of my salmons..Rich Ihle stock..from Jimmy Horton. This is one fine looking boa.

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bahreptiles Oct 09, 2004 06:17 PM

I heard tales that there is a way for het-albinos but no one had said what it is. As far as anerys I don't know anyway from just looking and I have bred anerys several times. Sorry I could not give you a cut and dry answer.
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RioBravoReptiles Oct 09, 2004 06:25 PM

There is a certain 'LOOK' to very many het-albino boas and speckling is part of it.. That is because of the central American (Honduran) genetics of the founding albino imports that persist in the mainly Colombian cross albino lines.. The problem is, that look is not limited to only the het for amelanistics, any similar intergrade as well as some more specific CA lines could have it.

There is also a yellow or yellow-ish tendency.. perhaps someone with a real good eye could pick out hets from a group of 'possibles'.. but hey, 100% het-albinos are very reasonably priced now anyway.

Hope this helps.
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EricIvins Oct 09, 2004 11:03 PM

Didn't the founders of both strains of Albinos come from Colombia, more specifically a certain drainage area ( I' have to look it up )? As far as I know the only albinos to come from Central America were the T 's that came in 3 years ago.

EricIvins Oct 09, 2004 11:05 PM

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Rainshadow Oct 10, 2004 11:55 AM

That the founding T neg. albino had any link to Central American origin...actually that is incorrect...,neither the original,nor the Sharp strain have any Central American locale influence in the founding stock,both forms were imported from Colombia,(another male albino,recently imported from Colombia has been proven to be compatable with the "Kahl",or,"original strain.)however,there's no Honduran connection to T neg.albinism,or,any "speckling" present in heterozygotes.

RioBravoReptiles Oct 10, 2004 01:11 PM

Beginning in 1981 I worked for a wholesale seafood importer who was dabbling in herps.. he had connections in Honduras (other places too) and regularly flew down there and returned with shipments of junk herps as well as a few nice things (Hog Is. boas).. he was offered a group of baby boas, they were siblings from a birth at the exporter's facility, that included three albinos $500.00US for all.. he turned it down because at that time he was paying about $7.50US for mainland boas and $10.00US for Hog Is. boas. But they were later sold to some guys here in the US.. I also was told that the amount of money paid for the original abinos (to get them here) was no where near the amount supposedly paid by the original investors.. it all seems to fit.

I did not see those animals myself, but my boss did. And I can't remember where they were shipped to here, though my boss found out and told me at that time. The timing is right.. and if they were shipped to the US but are not the source of the albinos here where did they go?

I've been wrong before and I'm not trying to start any kind of feud.. there is no reason for a feud.. it is accepted that the albinos have been crossed with just about everything... but again, if these Honduran boas are not the start of the amels here.. where are they, and their offspring now?

If you figure this out, please share!

Gus

kasper22 Oct 10, 2004 07:37 PM

Gus, that is some interseting infomation. It could explain why the reds fade out so bad on the albinos.

I could be wrong, but wasn't the original shipment that Pete got his albino from 4 girls and 1 male?

Rainshadow Oct 11, 2004 10:18 AM

Just a friendly separation of fact from fiction. I can't answer the question of "what happened to them",(the 3 "Honduran" albinos.)but,will suffice to say your boss should've coughed up the five big ones,he certainly could've paid for enough gas to make several more trips,and,owned the entire race of Hog Island boas! *lol*

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