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*This photo was not taken by me, nor are these my frogs*

I found this pic online and am posting merely out of my own curiosity. I am wondering if anyone can identify the frog on the right. It looks like a tinc morph, but which one? My tinc now looks almost identical to the one in the picture and I am now wondering if my frog is a hybrid. This frog was posted as a green and blue Azurus??!!!

Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks!

Looks like it's probably a froglet. Darts start out pretty drab as froglets and their coloration changes for a while until they get some size on them. If it's a froglet, it probably won't look exactly like that when it gets to be full grown.

If your frog that looks like that is a froglet or juvie, I wouldn't worry about it being a hybrid just yet. If it's full grown, I might be a little concerned.

That frog is a strange morph though. If they say it is a "blue and green azureus" it could very well be a hybrid of some kind. Hope the hybridation happened on accident. Shame on him if he did it on purpose, we only have so many species of darts, we need to keep them pure.
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1.1.0 Sunburst Veileds (Oscar and Lizzie)
1.1.0 Azureus darts
2.3.0 Mantids
1.0.0 Albino Pacman (Grumpy)
2.0.0 White's Tree Frogs
0.2.0 Cats (Oreo and Doodle)

Ok well my tinc is now 6 months old so how old should he be classified as "adult"?? His yellow that was so prominant when I first got him is now green and his legs are a bright blue with no spotting on them at all. When I posted my first pic of him most people thought he was a Suriname and now he has changed so much I am starting to re-think. I will post a new pic of him tonight but for now this is the day I first got him and it is pretty blurry.

I clicked the wrong pic..... that one was of my Ig "Freddie."

THIS is Zazu:

It's a little blurry, but from what I can tell it looks like a surinam cobalt. Who did you get it from? If you got it from a fairly reputible source, I wouldn't worry too much about it being a hybrid (the good guys don't mix em')

The way you describe it, it sounds like the color is just a little off and that's why you kind of think it is a hybrid. I wouldn't worry too much about the color if it is a little greener of a yellow. In the wild, there is a lot of variation in each species, it may just be a little bit of an odder variation. There still is the possibility that he is a hybrid though.

Even if it is a hybrid, I wouldn't worry about it too much unless you are planning to breed him.
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1.1.0 Sunburst Veileds (Oscar and Lizzie)
1.1.0 Azureus darts
2.3.0 Mantids
1.0.0 Albino Pacman (Grumpy)
2.0.0 White's Tree Frogs
0.2.0 Cats (Oreo and Doodle)

Yeah well I lied about the pic because I now cannot find the cord for my Digital to hook up to my computer. I have some great pics too!

So it is normal for them to be more green than yellow? His yellow is almost all gone and espically in the lower half of his body, all what was yellow is a definate green!

I purchased him at a pet shop in Tigard, OR and at the time I was stupid and did not do my research first. I love the little bugger and if I could I would spend all my time watching him in facination..... but I now know if I am going to activly persue this as a hobby not to buy without knowing the background. The pet shop knew nothing about the species but has him labeled as a "blue and yellow frog." That is another reason I worry about him being a hybrid. I guess it is not a real issue because I will never breed him, but I guess I just would like know and be able to label him as a "Suriname" or what have you.

If I do find my cord I will post the pictures regardless because I got some great ones with him and the new leuc.

Thanks for you imput and help!

Ellena

Really, there is no way to know for sure. Now that you say how green he is, I'm starting to think that he may be some sort of hybrid. And the fact that a pet store sold him to you suggests also that it could be a hybrid. But there is no way to know for sure. I'd have to see some more pics of him before I could make my judgement though.

On the upside though, I bet you got a good deal on him at the pet store. Pet stores don't know crap when it comes to amphibians. I went to petco to buy a baby whites treefrog, and they wrote the slip up for a green frog (which cost about 1/4 the price!) So I bought 4 more.

But back to the subject... I'm not completely sure. If you find the cord, I'd be interested in seeing the other pictures, sounds like an interesting little specimen.
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1.1.0 Sunburst Veileds (Oscar and Lizzie)
1.1.0 Azureus darts
2.3.0 Mantids
1.0.0 Albino Pacman (Grumpy)
2.0.0 White's Tree Frogs
0.2.0 Cats (Oreo and Doodle)

Ok so the pics don't show as much green there really is and no I am not a good photographer, but you get the idea. The yellow/green contrast is really evident when you compare the yellow on the top of his head to what is supposed to be yellow on his hindquarters.... it looks like this icky yellow/green! Well I may be wrong, but not knowing his origin is what is really bugging me and I will never buy a dart from a pet store again. Oh and no I paid $80 for him and the guy overcharged me and I called and they had to refund me $20... he ended up costing $60.

I just ordered one of these on Monday through a pet store for my son's biology class then was told that the school won't allow darts on campus because of problems in the past... long story... anyway, the frog came in today so I went to the store to look at it and the yellow on the head is yellow but the further you go to the vent it gets greener! I did order a cobalt and that is what they sent!!
Hope this helps.

JJay
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JJay

This is Alma, my Bell Albino

4.5.3 leopard geckos (9 eggs incubating)
0.1 Map turtle

Really? Where did you order one from??? The place I bought mine from just said he was a "colbalt" as well.

It pays to buy from a breeder directly if history and correct identification is important. I now know that!

Here's the other pic with him and my new leuc.

The photo actually kind of scared me.

I sure hope mine don't get big, green, ugly, and grow those spiny
things from their backs !!

Haha Dean. Yeah if only everyone's darts got that big!!!

Here's another one to scare you with:

I think I just fell in love.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus

With Dean or the Iguana? hahaha LOL

BTW I posted the new pics of my tinc up aboove if anyone wants to take a shot at identifying him.........

The frogs pictured look very much like New River tincs, very close relatives of Azureus.
Rich Frye

That one on the left looks like a new river morph, but I think I change my mind on the one on the right (That's the one in question right?) Now that I take another look at it, it looks like a table mountain cobalt morph. Not sure how a pet store would have gotten one of those though, they're kinda hard to find... at least I had a hard time finding some.
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1.1.0 Sunburst Veileds (Oscar and Lizzie)
1.1.0 Azureus darts
2.3.0 Mantids
1.0.0 Albino Pacman (Grumpy)
2.0.0 White's Tree Frogs
0.2.0 Cats (Oreo and Doodle)

The one on the right seems to have a shadow that is casting a yellowish hue on it. Without that hue, it has the markings and color of a New River.Take care.

Rich Frye

The one on the right is the one that LOOKS like mine but is not mine. I used that pic because it held the yellow fading to green similarity that mine has. Do tincs plose their yellow as they get older??

I looked up a few pics and I see what you are saying... the froglets look really similar but they develop more spotting as adults it seems. How is it a tinc but closely related to an Az?

Azureus are related very closly to tincs.They can breed with tincs to get hybrids. NOT suggesting this should happen, quite the opposite. Tincs change their colors/shape quite a bit as they age.

Rich