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living aquarium questions

zuesfrog Oct 11, 2004 08:22 PM

I'm planning on making a living plant ecosystem for my tree frogs. This was inspired by the two aquariums i saw at my schools ecology building tonight. Is there any sites around that show me a good example and give instructions on how to do so. Appretiate it.
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2 firebelly toads (Ernie and Oscar)
1 american green tree frog (Booger)
1 four line/golden tree frog (Nugget)

Replies (2)

hecktick_punker Oct 11, 2004 09:20 PM

Indeed there are, have a look at these:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/2802/terreng.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~kenuy/vivarpage.htm
http://www.blackjungle.com/basics.htm

I also wrote an article that can be viewed at http://www.amphibiancare.com/frogs/articles/tropicalterrarium.html Realize that a terrarium is not maintenance free and still will require spot cleaning, water changes, etc. Good luck,
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Devin Edmonds
devin@amphibiancare.com
www.amphibiancare.com

marty1 Oct 12, 2004 12:49 PM

I've had excellent luck so far keeping a WTF in a living vivarium. I open the lid only to throw in insects (and to test the water). Research the kinds of native mosses in your area and their requirements (I initially used a native type of moss for ground cover that gave me hard times). Find a type that is hardy and can take some abuse. I searched all over my city until I found an awesome resource for moss in a local park here (by the way people will think you're crazy when you pick moss).
If you plan on using wood branches or pieces, and since you're going all natural, don't clean the mold or fungus when it begins to form. It looks a bit gross at first, but will lead to new mosses growing and other things. Also, it may or may not apply to you, but I use a CPU fan inside my vivarium. Since the frogs probably need more humidity than the plants and mosses, and stale air is never good for plants, you may want to introduce some kind of 'wind' in your environment. I screened off a CPU fan to prevent injury of the frog and tucked it behind a plant, since there's nothing natural looking about a CPU fan . It creates a nice wind circulation within the vivarium, and angled the right way will draw in small amounts of outside air. I had a customized glass lid built for this particular vivarium just for this. Also, if you're really good, you can use the advantage of the wind to remove moisture off the front glass of the vivarium. This is tricky to do in a humid environment, but is worth the frigging around, since it is kind of pointless to have a beautiful vivarium and not be able to see inside.
As for the balance of frog waste vs. plant consumption, it is hard to find good resources about this. All I can say is it's working for me. Plant lots of plants and mosses to make sure that everything is hungry. I can explain my setup to you if you want, just ask.

Oh, and good luck , vivariums are awesome!

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