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This was something posted in another forum, this guy was wondering if this was common practice.

"I know a guy that takes a mouse and or rabbit and grinds down their teeth with a file (is that the right way to spell that meaning?) and cuts their nails down to the pinks and then files them to so they are smooth, the mouse is almost defenseless, he was letting the mouse bite him, there is pressure he says but no cuts.. he then proceeds feeding his snakes them."

It really appalled all of us, I just feel this is truly SICK. I was wondering if anyone has ever heard of this being done before... I mean hitting the rodents head on the table to kill it quickly and painlessly (when done right) is one thing, but thats just something that would seem to be done by a young jeffrey dahmer.

As I posted over there, I hope someone cuts his fingers off and grinds his teeth down to the gums before feeding him to a firey serpent in hell.
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -George Carlin

A fool doesn't learn. A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Which one are you?

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Rat/Corn snake care sheet I wrote

Current snakes:
0.1 Licorice Stick Black Rat (Lola)
1.0 Neonate Black Rat (het for Lic Stk's) (Frankie)
1.1 Texas Bairds (Jose and Rosa)
0.1 Blue Beauty (Brunhilde)

While he may not be a brutal killer, that sounds like needless cruelty.

>>Feeding mice to our snakes is a necessity.
Torturing a mouse for pleasure is sick. And there is no other reason or excuse, just flat out torture.
As you know, almost all cereal murderers got their start by torturing animals.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

i'm a cereal murderer....i murder a whole bowl of it most every morning
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -George Carlin

A fool doesn't learn. A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Which one are you?

My Website
Rat/Corn snake care sheet I wrote

Current snakes:
0.1 Licorice Stick Black Rat (Lola)
1.0 Neonate Black Rat (het for Lic Stk's) (Frankie)
1.1 Texas Bairds (Jose and Rosa)
0.1 Blue Beauty (Brunhilde)

"As you know, almost all cereal murderers got their start by torturing animals."

What cereals did they murder?? Capn Crunch?? Count Chocula??

Sorry Jimmy, just couldnt resist, had to rib ya!!! I got a good laugh! Hope you have a good sense of humour!
(I know you meant "serial" murderers)
Brian
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RATS
1.0 Corn snake "Warpath" (KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Yellow rat snake "Wolverine" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)

MILKS
0.0.1 Eastern Milk snake "Cable" (KY locale)
0.0.1 Eastern/Red milk intergrade "Omega Red" (KY locale)
Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

>>"As you know, almost all cereal murderers got their start by torturing animals."
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>> What cereals did they murder?? Capn Crunch?? Count Chocula??
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>>Sorry Jimmy, just couldnt resist, had to rib ya!!! I got a good laugh! Hope you have a good sense of humour!
>>I know you meant "serial" murderers)
>>Brian
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Are you sure I misspelled it, maybe all serial murderers got their start torturing cereal? Yeah that's the ticket...
Speaking of which Captain Crunch needs to be murdered anyway, that stuff is nasty. Never did like it.
Anyway, glad you found some humor in my ignorance,
I do what I can.....LOL
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

yea..captian crunch is nasty.
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -George Carlin

A fool doesn't learn. A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Which one are you?

My Website
Rat/Corn snake care sheet I wrote

Current snakes:
0.1 Licorice Stick Black Rat (Lola)
1.0 Neonate Black Rat (het for Lic Stk's) (Frankie)
1.1 Texas Bairds (Jose and Rosa)
0.1 Blue Beauty (Brunhilde)

You guys are just wrong. Cap'n Crunch is wonderful, especially the kind with the little crunchberries. In fact, I'd be eating a bowl right now if it weren't for my lactose intolerance.
Cheers!

Jimmy
I got a good laugh, and nice your being a good sport about it! Glad to see not everyone on here is thin skinned! Good to joke around and have fun with it.

And whats wrong with Capn Crunch, I always liked it as a kid, I notice ya didnt say anything about Count Chocula! LOL

>>>>"As you know, almost all cereal murderers got their start by torturing animals."
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>>>> What cereals did they murder?? Capn Crunch?? Count Chocula??
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>>>>Sorry Jimmy, just couldnt resist, had to rib ya!!! I got a good laugh! Hope you have a good sense of humour!
>>>>I know you meant "serial" murderers)
>>>>Brian
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>>Are you sure I misspelled it, maybe all serial murderers got their start torturing cereal? Yeah that's the ticket...
>>Speaking of which Captain Crunch needs to be murdered anyway, that stuff is nasty. Never did like it.
>>Anyway, glad you found some humor in my ignorance,
>>I do what I can.....LOL
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>>Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
>>"resistance is futile"
>>Jimmy (draybar)
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RATS
1.0 Corn snake "Warpath" (KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Yellow rat snake "Wolverine" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)

MILKS
0.0.1 Eastern Milk snake "Cable" (KY locale)
0.0.1 Eastern/Red milk intergrade "Omega Red" (KY locale)
Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

we've all got to laugh about something.
Might as well be me....lol
I don't mind being the butt of a joke.
Better then just being a plain 'ole butt.....lol
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Definately cruel. Clipping an animals nails is one thing since they don't feel it but using a file to nub down the teeth is VERY cruel. Any animal should be put under when doing anything to their teeth.This guy is a little sick in the head especially if he is letting the mouse bite him. I hope he gets a mouse that still has enough punch left to cause him a bite to the bone!!

I personally kill my own mice by thumping them but what I usually do is place them is a small brown paper lunch bag,put some air in it and slam it into a table. They are dead instantly,no blood and no twitching. If my snakes don't eat them right away I freeze them for later use.Sounds cruel but it's quick.
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Reptiles
0.1 - Early 2002 Anery Motley Corn 33 1/2"
1.0 - Late 2003 Yellow Rat Snake 15 2/3"
0.0.1 - 2003 Banded California King Snake 29 2/3"
1.0 Green Anole
0.0.0 House Gecko
0.1 Painted Turtle

Mammals
4 female ferrets,1 male cat and 1 male doberman...and a few kids!

RIP - Nala my Rottie 08/19/2004

thats the way that it needs to be done...its quick and relativeley painless for the animal. i know people who just take a full grown live mouse and put it in the freezer...they say its less painful than thumping its head but since mice are warm blooded animals i say its nowhere near as humane as a thump...
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The reason mainstream thought is thought of as a stream is because it's so shallow. -George Carlin

A fool doesn't learn. A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Which one are you?

My Website
Rat/Corn snake care sheet I wrote

Current snakes:
0.1 Licorice Stick Black Rat (Lola)
1.0 Neonate Black Rat (het for Lic Stk's) (Frankie)
1.1 Texas Bairds (Jose and Rosa)
0.1 Blue Beauty (Brunhilde)

...that this guy you're referring to is probably a 'troll'? There was another thread on another forum here about someone wanting to feed stray kittens to their python. Sounds like a troll to me.
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Matt Campbell
Animal Keeper, Small Mammal/Reptile House
Lincoln Park Zoo Chicago, Illinois

Assistant Curator
Wildlife Discovery Center at Elawa Farm
Lake Forest, Illinois