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Has anyone here seen or heard of a verified red x yellow ackie cross?

I see lots of claims of these crosses... But mostly, they look like yellows.
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Mark
http://www.outbacksnakehouse.net

G'day mate,

Now this little ramble probably varies due to what you may term a "Red" or "yellow Ackie". I'm basing this "explanation" on the animals in the west (WA), where both red coloured ackies can be found, as well as "yellow" coloured ackies. Based on speaking (typing) to Frank, these yellow and red ackies live in the same areas (ie. you'll find a "red" ackie near a "yellow" ackie) and their colours are based on different phenotypes, rather than maybe a species separation. In their native habitats, this seems to mean that reds and yellows will breed...producing more little reds and yellows, and thus different colours (genotypes/phenotypes) are conserved in the population, so that the species may adapt/react to change in the future...

Thinking in terms of nature, breeding is not about really about colours...is it?

Now that stuff may not apply to ackies which remian to be described as subspecies/ new species...ie. animals with differences greater than just "colour"...we'll see what other more learned folks have to say...

I'm beginning not to like the term "reds" and "yellows' it seems to allude to a great distinction...one which may be undeserved.

i hope that made some sort of sense (reading it to myself it didnt make much!), but i find it very, very interesting personally

Best of Luck,

Dean

PS. i know i should have left Frank to answer this, as he has more experience, but thought i'd add what he has mentioned to me...
Reptiles of Western Australia

I think I understand where you are going with this, but I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing.

By "Red", I mean Varanus acanthurus (acanthurus?).

By "Yellow", I mean Varanus acanthurus brachyurus.

I'm not sure if you are using the terms red and yellow simply to define color variance, or subspecies.

If you are referring to the range of color from red to yellow in v.a. brachyurus, I readily agree
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Mark
http://www.outbacksnakehouse.net

We have Yellows(V.a.brachyurus) from Mt. Isa, Cloncurry area and Reds(V.a.acanthurus) originally from W.A.

They are distintly two different types, not color morphs of the same type.

We also have this thing called German Reds, that are a reddish form of V.a.brachyurus, also from the Mt. Isa area. These are just a different color phase of the yellows. Only a color morph.

Besides, I never understood the question of, Reds vs. Yellows. My answer would be the one that trained the hardest would win. Cheers FR

Mark Chong that has them on here occaisionally, they look like red or V.Acanthurus as adults, but they cost less than reds. They are the same species, different subspecies (red and yellows).

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Mark
http://www.outbacksnakehouse.net