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MsTT: I gots a question for ya

budding_writer Jun 28, 2003 05:53 AM

Dear MsTT:

Hi: how are ya? I have enjoyed many answer from you. You have helped a lot. I like reading your great posts. I was reading venomous reptile dot org. You mentioned that you have a Burmese X O. Hanna? Is this correct? Can you tell me more about it? I am absolutely fascinated by that hybrid. Can you tell me everything about it? How it comes about and what are the babies like (ie are they venomous, size, etc).

Thx. in advance. Taht is a fascinating cross!

Replies (9)

Greg Longhurst Jun 28, 2003 06:29 AM

The lady wrote that she had a cross between a Burmese & a Chinese king cobra. You read that she had crossed a Burmese python with a king cobra, when in fact the cross was between a king cobra from Burma & a king cobra from China. Crossing a python & a cobra ain't gonna happen outside a novel.

~~Greg~~

budding_writer Jun 28, 2003 06:37 AM

Ah. That makes soooo much more sense. You are right, I majorly dorked it . I mean I majorly misunderstood.

Thanks for clearing that up!

(I actually would not have believed it possible. But since this was MsTT and I knew that she would not make things up, I suspended my disbelief and actually wanted to believe that that fascinating hybrid can happen). LOL.

cheers. Happy Hotings!

WW Jun 28, 2003 07:36 AM

>>Ah. That makes soooo much more sense. You are right, I majorly dorked it . I mean I majorly misunderstood.
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>>Thanks for clearing that up!
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>>I actually would not have believed it possible. But since this was MsTT and I knew that she would not make things up,

Steady on now - this IS the inventor of Agkistrodon piscifabula and Vipera fenestra we are talking about...

But then again, that's a but-once-a-year aberration, coinciding with the very, very, very last few days of March and the day after that.

Cheers,

Wolfgang
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MsTT Jun 28, 2003 07:07 PM

The result of attempting to cross a king cobra with a python would certainly be a fat king cobra. But neither snake would be gravid. I can send you some "eggs" laid from this sort of crossing if you like. LOL

The little Burmese X Chinese king is doing fantastically well, eating scented fuzzy mice and growing like a little weed. Normally I'd expect to see the beginnings of an adult pattern by now, but this animal remains brightly striped. Still looks like his baby picture which can be seen if you click below. Except that he's getting to be a nice big boy; haven't measured him but I'm thinking somewhere around 3'.

Now this is not a joke: I have a pair of snakes that are the result of an accidental crossbreeding between Crotalus atrox and Sistrurus catenatus. Mardi Snipes is attempting to breed the male to his large adult female pygmy. This should be quite a fascinating experiment. It will be interesting to see if cross genus hybridization can leave an animal fertile, and if so, whether it can be fertile with yet another related species.
Baby Burmese X Chinese king cobra

MsTT Jun 28, 2003 08:56 PM

This fascinating hybrid's primary prey is of course Homo sapiens, which makes it somewhat difficult to keep him fed. Damsels in distress are a particular favorite. He is quite venomous, with dripping eight inch long fangs that also have the unique ability to open locked doors and puncture car tires.

The constricting abilities inherited from the python side of his ancestry do help him capture prey, as they permit him to more easily catch and ingest pedestrians from the sidewalk as he hangs from a convenient tree limb. When he has completely depleted the pedestrian population in a neighborhood, the constricting abilities come in handy to stop a passing car and extract its occupants.

/Hollywood movie mode off

Actually he's about 3'. His parents are a Burmese king cobra and a Chinese king cobra. But the truth is much less entertaining than some of the fun speculations in bad Hollywood movies about hybridized venomous snakes.

Technically I'm not sure this guy really counts as a cross or a hybrid. Burma and China share a border and their king cobras probably share genetics, since nobody is in the habit of asking them for a passport.

I know O. hannah is about to become non monotypic, but I'm not yet sure how the species divisions are going to shake themselves out. Any input, Dr. Wuster?

coralcobra Jun 29, 2003 02:45 AM

I hope the snake can't fly. And....... uhhhh..... please don't crossbreed 'it' with a seasnakes so it can reach Holland.
Thanks in advance
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Cheers,
Harold

www.venominal.tk

MsTT Jun 29, 2003 06:38 AM

I'll be breeding him to a cross between a reticulated python and a rattlesnake that is also heterozygous for legs. So their second generation offspring should be able to drive a car.

Cheers,

TT

coralcobra Jun 29, 2003 09:55 AM

Ooohhh no..... sounds creepy.
What will be your next step..... Breed it with a Jesus lizard, so it can walk everywhere it wants to go? (even Holland......)

By the way, when WW isn't on the forum anymore i'll know the animal will enter Holland soon. LOL!
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Cheers,
Harold

www.venominal.tk

WW Jun 29, 2003 04:44 PM

>>I know O. hannah is about to become non monotypic, but I'm not yet sure how the species divisions are going to shake themselves out. Any input, Dr. Wuster?

Not much so far, except that, from what I have seen, the Chinese and Burmese kings would almost certainly remain part of one particular species within the genus. This is very much still work in progress.

Cheers,

Wolfgang
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