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Veiled Breeding

Walker360 Oct 12, 2004 02:08 PM

Ok, I have a male and a female veiled chameleon who live in the same cage together. I was wondering how I would get them to breed, or if they would just do it automatically once they are ready.

I realize that it is bad to keep a male and female together, but I didn't know that when I first bought them. I want to get some eggs before I sell the female, but I don't know how it works with them living together. I think they are both about 6 months old, and the female seems to be displaying the "robing egg" pattern fairly often.

Any Ideas on how to get them to breed would be appreciated.

And also, I was wondering exactly how I would sell the female. Should I look at pet stores, in the paper, or ?

Thanks.

Replies (2)

Melisondra Oct 12, 2004 07:23 PM

Few insights here...
First it would be in your BEST interest overall to seperate them **soon**! Veileds do NOT live well together even though they may look like they do. As for breeding they will let you know when they are ready, can be anywhere from 6 months to a year so ive heard before they are reasy, the longer you wait though the better so they have a chance to grow fully. You present the female to the male and if she stays calm and green then let them go for it, but if she hisses and turns black take her away.
Im not sure what you want to do about selling though. My advice is not to go through a petstore because just anyone could buy her, and she might not go to a caring (well knowledged) home. Best bet is just to use the classifieds on here or something maybe, im not sure.

Hope this helps!

Erin
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1:0 Veileds (Gene, RIP Aurora)
1:1 Albino Clawed Frogs (Phedre and Jos)
?? Fire belly toad (Harold)
Various cats and dogs

kinyonga Oct 12, 2004 07:54 PM

First of all, I don't recommend keeping a male and a female veiled
together after they are about 3 months of age. I also don't breed
my females until they are over a year of age (full grown). I like
to let the female finish forming her own bones before I put extra
demands on her to use her calcium to make fertile eggs.
(Infertile eggs, IMHO put less of a demand on her.)

Since they are about 6 months old, they may have already mated
and she may already be working on her clutch of eggs. What color
is she? Does she have bright torquoise/blue spots? Yellow
markings? Is her background color quite dark (almost black)?
How does she react to the male? Is she hissing, swaying, gaping,
lunging at him when he comes near her?

When I mate my veiled chameleons, I take the
female on a
stick (rather than on my hand...I find that she
will be more relaxed on
the stick) and I hold her in front of the
male's cage so I can see their
reactions.

If the female has an almost black background
and/or hisses and/or sways
from side to side with her mouth open, I put
her back in her cage 'cause
she is
NOT receptive. IMHO putting a non-receptive
female into a male's cage is
just asking for trouble. I have had the odd
female have the dark
background, but not show agression (hiss, sway,
gape, lunge) to the
male....but aside from her dark background she
will show
"desire-to-mate-behavior....and they can be
mated if this occurs.

Normally, the female that is receptive kinda
"hugs" the branch with her
body and keeps her "normal" background color.
If this happens, I open
the door to the male's cage and hold her closer
to him...but not too
close...and watch for his reaction to her.
Often, when the male first
sees the female he seems to mistake the female
for another male....and
will turn bright colors, hold one front foot up
close to his neck,
flatten the body and push out his gular pouch
(throat) and get ready to
fight. This is, of course, all aggressive
behavior that a male would use
towards another male who was invading his
territory. Usually, once he
realizes that its a female and that she's
receptive, he calms down and
starts
courting the female instead. Until he does
this, its not safe to let the
female
be too close to him....he might lunge at her
and bite her. If/when
they are both calm, I place her on the branches
in his cage a little way
away from him and try not to let them see me
watching. Sometimes if they
see me, they can go back to the aggressive
displays intending the
aggressiveness towards me.... but "mistakenly"
take it out on each other
instead.

Once I'm sure that they are okay together, I
leave them alone and check
on them every couple of hours to make sure that
the female hasn't turned
dark in the background or is repelling the
male. Once she is in
non-receptive (dark background)
coloration/gaping/hissing/swaying
towards the male, I put the female back into
her own cage.

Hope this helps!

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