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My female Bairds doesn't seem right. She finished shedding last night,except for a small bit of skin on her tail. I got her out and helped her with that last bit of shed. While I was holding her she started making a clicking noise. I thought I was hearing things,so I put her back in the terr. She moved around alittle and she kind if had her mouth open and she kept rubbing one side of her head. Then she went into her hide.
Today I checked on her and she is still "clicking". Other than that she isn't doing much, just laying by the hot rock. My male on the other hand is all over the place. He almost never stops going (little energizer bunny).
If anyone has ever had one of their snakes make this clicking sound and/or has any idea what is causing this please let me know. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Mick

Especially since she's keeping her mouth slightly open (to breathe). Keep her warm and get her to a vet to get a definite diagnosis. You really want to catch these things as early as you can and get them treated. Hopefully you've got the snakes in seperate cages so you only have to deal with one vet bill for now.
Good luck!
Lora

Hotrocks are bad news.They tend to superheat and fry a snakes belly.Ive seen snakes cooked by hotrocks/sizzlestones.Did you check your snakes nose holes to see if some of the shed stuck?

at the very least they make the feces so hard that they dont pass well, hotrocks are bad bad bad

Definately sounds like a respitory problem. Take her to the vet and get her checked out ASAP. I would also NOT use hot rocks as a heat source. They are bad news. ANY reptiple can suffer thermal burns from hot rocks as they are an unstable heat source. They are the WORST invention ever made for reptile care! If that is the ONLY heat source you are using she could have a problem from wrong temps... Might I suggest an under tank heater or an over heat heat light??
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Reptiles
0.1 - Early 2002 Anery Motley Corn 33 1/2"
1.0 - Late 2003 Yellow Rat Snake 15 2/3"
0.0.1 - 2003 Banded California King Snake 29 2/3"
1.0 Green Anole
0.0.0 House Gecko
0.1 Painted Turtle

Mammals
4 female ferrets,1 male cat and 1 male doberman...and a few kids!

RIP - Nala my Rottie 08/19/2004

OK the hot rock is GONE!! She is in a 10 gal by herself with her hide, some water, and newspaperfor the substrate. With an under tank heater, and also a overhead lamp for heat. I will call and get her to the vet tomorrow. Any ideas to keep her comfy till then?
Thanks for the help.
Mick

If it is respiratory problem (snake breath hard, with noise, lungs is inflated, in mounth you can find ooze) - raise temperarture to 35C. I dont know how you do it in your country, we use something like thermo-cabel which find under cage. Or by heating lighting source, this is your choice.

Then you take ascorbic acid and gentamicini sulphat. 1.5-2 ml ascorbic acid will stimulate your snake immune system and 0.05-0.1 ml per kilo (one injection after every 3 days) will kill bacteria. Injection must be maked subcutaneously.

You must clean snake mounth also, this will help too.

General danger in this situation - sneke trachea can be blocked by bundle of ooze.

Snakes almost dont have thermoreceptors on belly and can receive very hard burnings.
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Ivan Arinin
Tula Exotarium
ICQ 151665951
Site: www.edione.narod.ru
E.g. guttata Normal 2.3
E.g. guttata Albino 2.4
E.g. guttata Oketee 2.0
E.g. guttata Hypo Oketee 1.1
E.g. guttata Albino Okeetee 2.2
E.g. guttata Ghost 2.3
E.g. guttata Motley 2.2
E.g. guttata Albino Motley 2.2
E.g. guttata Anerythristic 2.2
E.g. guttata Snow 2.4
E.g. guttata Creamsicle 2.1
E.g. rosacea 2.2
E.g. emoryi 2.2

E. persica black 3.4
E. persica brown 2.1
E. longissima 4.6
E. situla 3.3
E. dione 54
E. bimaculata 4.3
E. quatourlineata 10.15

E. o. obsoleta yellow 2.2
E. o. lindheimeri White Sided 2.2.
E. o. lindheomeri Leucistic 1.2
E. o. lindheimeri Black Orange 2.2
E. o. quatourlineata 1.3
E. o. quatourlineata Deckerti 2.2
E. o. quatourlineata Williamsi 1.0
E. o. rossalleni 2.2

Langaha madagascariensis 2.1.12
Cylindrophis ruffus 0.1
Enhydris plumbea 1.0

0.04-0.1 ml - i mean gentamicini sulphat
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Ivan Arinin
Tula Exotarium
ICQ 151665951
Site: www.edione.narod.ru
E.g. guttata Normal 2.3
E.g. guttata Albino 2.4
E.g. guttata Oketee 2.0
E.g. guttata Hypo Oketee 1.1
E.g. guttata Albino Okeetee 2.2
E.g. guttata Ghost 2.3
E.g. guttata Motley 2.2
E.g. guttata Albino Motley 2.2
E.g. guttata Anerythristic 2.2
E.g. guttata Snow 2.4
E.g. guttata Creamsicle 2.1
E.g. rosacea 2.2
E.g. emoryi 2.2

E. persica black 3.4
E. persica brown 2.1
E. longissima 4.6
E. situla 3.3
E. dione 54
E. bimaculata 4.3
E. quatourlineata 10.15

E. o. obsoleta yellow 2.2
E. o. lindheimeri White Sided 2.2.
E. o. lindheomeri Leucistic 1.2
E. o. lindheimeri Black Orange 2.2
E. o. quatourlineata 1.3
E. o. quatourlineata Deckerti 2.2
E. o. quatourlineata Williamsi 1.0
E. o. rossalleni 2.2

Langaha madagascariensis 2.1.12
Cylindrophis ruffus 0.1
Enhydris plumbea 1.0

What is the temp of the cage? You should have one hot and one cool side for thermoregulation. One heat source is usually good enough, either and UTH or an over heat heat source.
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Reptiles
0.1 - Early 2002 Anery Motley Corn 33 1/2"
1.0 - Late 2003 Yellow Rat Snake 15 2/3"
0.0.1 - 2003 Banded California King Snake 29 2/3"
1.0 Green Anole
0.0.0 House Gecko
0.1 Painted Turtle

Mammals
4 female ferrets,1 male cat and 1 male doberman...and a few kids!

RIP - Nala my Rottie 08/19/2004

UTH is all your bairds needs.The light with the UTH will probably cook it to death also.You need a cheap temp gauge to check your temps.All my rats and corns just have UTH's and they all do just fine.Im not even sure if your bairds even has a respitory infection.Is there any bubbling snot or mucous?Heavy breathing?Hissing while breathing?Constantly gaped mouth?Sluggish?If you do think your rat is sick keep it away from the rest of your other snakes and keep your hands washed.I hope you have a good herp vet in your area there kinda hard to find.I found my vet thru the herp vet connection.You can find that on any search engine.Good luck and let us know what happens...Paul

Couldn't get her to a "real herp vet" but a friend of mine is a vet so I took her out to see him. We got her mouth suctioned out and he gave her a shot of vit c. Now he's mad cause he needs to learn more about snakes(that'll cost me LOL). That was Thursday a.m. Last night (Friday) she was ten Xs as active as she had been prior, and she just slammed a pinkie that I put in with her. Tonight she was drinking when I got home from work. So I think she ma be on the road to recovery(HOPEFULLY). Thanks to all for the help, It's pretty cool to ask a question and not hear " for a snake"?? are you nuts. Anyway thanks again. Mick