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"slowinski"....

TravisG Oct 13, 2004 04:47 PM

Meanest snakes alive!
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Replies (11)

zelaphez Oct 13, 2004 06:32 PM

Very nice. The meaner the better.

Bry

Hotshot Oct 13, 2004 06:34 PM

>>Meanest snakes alive!
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RATS
1.0 Corn snake "Warpath" (KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Yellow rat snake "Wolverine" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)

RACERS
1.0 Eastern Yellow Belly racer "Nightcrawler" (MO locale)

KINGS
1.1 California king snake "Bandit and Moonstar" (Coastal phase)
1.0 Prairie king snake "Bishop" (KY locale)
0.1 Black king snake "Domino" (KY locale)
1.0 Desert Kingsnake "Gambit"

MILKS
0.0.1 Eastern Milk snake "Cable" (KY locale)
0.0.1 Eastern/Red milk intergrade "Omega Red" (KY locale)
Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

crtoon83 Oct 14, 2004 12:20 AM

Is slowinski the name of the snake or the name you gave your particular snake? I've never heard about this type before... could someone maybe post more info on them? I'm still learning about all these different species of rats :D
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Current snakes:
0.1 Licorice Stick Black Rat (Lola)
1.0 Neonate Black Rat (het for Lic Stk's) (Frankie)
1.1 Texas Bairds (Jose and Rosa)
0.1 Blue Beauty (Brunhilde)

Terry Cox Oct 14, 2004 05:04 AM

>>Is slowinski the name of the snake or the name you gave your particular snake? I've never heard about this type before... could someone maybe post more info on them? I'm still learning about all these different species of rats :D
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You need to read up on the current taxonomy of the corn snake group. It was proposed that the corn snakes west of the Mississippi R. and east of the plains rats (emoryi) were a separate species, and named Pantherophis (Elaphe) slowinskii. However, most of us don't accept the species status and think of this form as a subspecies of guttata. I believe it will eventually be accepted as Pantherophis (Elaphe) guttata slowinskii, making four ssps. in the group, including guttata, emoryi, and meahllmorum, also. This is the most widely kept species of ratsnake in the hobby, making corn snakes very important to many of us. They seem to always be under study and new literature is sure to appear before long. A very good paper was done by Vaughan et al. in 1996. BTW, slowinskii was named after a herpetologist named Slowinski, would died from a snake bite in se. Asia a few years ago. There are many different variations of the corn and Great Plains rat. I'm currently interested in mostly the southern form of Great Plains rat.

TC
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Ratsnake Haven: Calico and hypo Chinese stripe-tailed ratsnakes, Mandarin ratsnakes, Chinese twin-spotted ratsnake phases, South Korean Dione's ratsnake, leopard snakes, Great Plains ratsnakes

TravisG Oct 14, 2004 10:05 AM

Thanks Terry. This snake actually donated his blood to Vaughn and Dixon. I was fortunate enough to collect around 30-40 of these for blood work back in '98. I believe these to be a subspecies of guttata as well. I kept 1.2 and both females laid over 20 eggs last year, tieing them closer to guttata than emoryi IMO. I gave them a break this year but they will be ready to go again next.

Ratsnake Haven Oct 17, 2004 03:04 PM

Thanks for the info, Travis. Sorry I was away so long, but it gets busy a lot around here (out of town). I'm glad you found those snakes for the study. I can't wait to see the next round of lit. Post pics of the babies you get next year, please

TC

>>Thanks Terry. This snake actually donated his blood to Vaughn and Dixon. I was fortunate enough to collect around 30-40 of these for blood work back in '98. I believe these to be a subspecies of guttata as well. I kept 1.2 and both females laid over 20 eggs last year, tieing them closer to guttata than emoryi IMO. I gave them a break this year but they will be ready to go again next.

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Ratsnake Haven: Calico and albino Chinese stripe-tailed ratsnakes, Mandarin ratsnakes, Chinese twin-spotted ratsnakes, South Korean Dione's ratsnake, and Great Plains ratsnakes

stevet Oct 15, 2004 02:11 AM

yes, Joe Slowinski was a friend of mine, and died three years ago, on 9/11 in Burma while the rest of the world watched the coverage of the attacks in new york.

http://outside.away.com/outside/adventure/200204/200204_bit_1.adp

Ratsnake Haven Oct 17, 2004 03:13 PM

I never knew about him until his death, but sure do now. There was a special that showed him and the snake that bit him. I was in Thailand in the late 60's and feared going in the rice paddies because of those darn things. Sorry for your loss. TC.

cowtownherper Oct 15, 2004 01:15 PM

This is a brazos co. male I just bought. I really love these guys.

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1,0 snow
1,0 amel
1,0 kisatchie
1,0 aney stripe motley
0,1 normal
0,1 charcoal
0,1 motley
1,1 oketee
0,1 tx rat
4,5 ball python
1,1 dumerils boa
1,1 columbian red tail boa
1,1 green iguana
1,0 leopard gecko
1,2 dogs
freezer full of mice & rats

cowtownherper Oct 15, 2004 01:18 PM

I really would like to find a female. Any help?
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1,0 snow
1,0 amel
1,0 kisatchie
1,0 aney stripe motley
0,1 normal
0,1 charcoal
0,1 motley
1,1 oketee
0,1 tx rat
4,5 ball python
1,1 dumerils boa
1,1 columbian red tail boa
1,1 green iguana
1,0 leopard gecko
1,2 dogs
freezer full of mice & rats

TravisG Oct 15, 2004 01:56 PM

sure could, e-mail me

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