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what is it?...............this ,that ,or?

jyohe Oct 14, 2004 08:46 PM

..ok......what is this...(one on right of course.....)

pastel on left........friend .....bred a pastel to a wild "ghost" female.......out pops this.......? what is it.......

looks super.......maybe ghost pastel.......another thought was yellowbelly (pastel)........mom could be yellow belly then actually...looks maybe like it.......?

.....so.....any thoughts?........

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Replies (8)

MarkS Oct 14, 2004 10:38 PM

It looks like a super to me, but then again I've only seen one in person. Whatever it is it sure is nice. Your friend got lucky with that one.

Mark

>>..ok......what is this...(one on right of course.....)
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>>pastel on left........friend .....bred a pastel to a wild "ghost" female.......out pops this.......? what is it.......
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>>looks super.......maybe ghost pastel.......another thought was yellowbelly (pastel)........mom could be yellow belly then actually...looks maybe like it.......?
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>>.....so.....any thoughts?........
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>>yep
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miba8055 Oct 14, 2004 11:05 PM

I would have to guess super pastel as well but doubt it because I'm pretty sure you could identify if the female was a pastel. Since you said ghost-ly, and haven't ruled out the yellowbelly, I would say it is indeed a keeper. Got any pics of the female ghost/yellowbelly?

Michael Ibanez

jeff favelle Oct 15, 2004 12:46 AM

Hopefully its a male and it can be tested sooner than later!

jyohe Oct 15, 2004 01:11 PM

mom was a "wild ghost"....maybe a yellowbelly....

female baby......3 other female pastels and 4 normals...

.....not mine...remember....friend's.......
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Matt...Hennek Oct 17, 2004 04:53 PM

Just a thought...might explain ur odds.

JaredHorenstein Oct 15, 2004 08:22 AM

Kool looking snake..............if I had to guess, Id say it was a super...........or just a scramer pastel...........its not a hypo pastel...........thats evident by the black pigment in the entire pattern and in the outline of the head pattern..........

Its definaetly not a pastel yellowbelly...........they dont have normal pastel patterns........the pastel yelowbellies have very odd patterns.........aswell as the tell tale yellowbelly stomach.......

Whatever it is.............its nice............

any pics of mom? whould help figure a lot out.

Jared

Christy Talbert Oct 15, 2004 10:04 AM

IT'S A KEEPER! CONGRATS!

Luke9815 Oct 15, 2004 01:45 PM

I'm gonna say super because it isn't interely impossible for the super to come out in a normal to pastel breeding....just EXTREMELY unlikely.
I seem to remember Jeremy Stone having produced the Super Motley from just a Motley to normal breeding.....
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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

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