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anyone near michigan?

umop_apisdn Oct 15, 2004 12:34 PM

i was just doing some web searching, and i found out theres 'holotypes' of u. malama and u. malahelo at the university of michigan museum of zoology. im guessing that holotypes are the originally described specimens. im wondering if its possible to view the specimens, or if they just have them in their collection, not viewable to the public. id love to see what they really look like!

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hundo188 Oct 15, 2004 01:42 PM

I live in michigan and my nephew goes to michigan college i will have him investigate and see whats thats all about
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1.1.MANY c.b. HENKELI

bsmith251 Oct 15, 2004 04:01 PM

Holotypes are indeed the original specimens submitted my the describing author; however, you realize that these specimens will be preserved and will not look nearly as spectacular as the living example... As a matter of fact, I've seen some atrocious holotypes, some were nearly indiscernible... But this is not to downgrade the experience... I was just letting you know, in case you didnt already know, that you'll be looking at dead animals in jars that have undoubtably lost their true colors!... Still useful for taxonomic and morphological data, but not that pleasing to the eye...
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Ben

umop_apisdn Oct 15, 2004 04:13 PM

i understand this. i have heard rumors that it was either malama or malahelo that are known by only a single specimen, which means its there in michigan. it would be very interesting to get a close look at the morphological characteristics.

bsmith251 Oct 15, 2004 04:52 PM

I thought you probably knew, but you never know!... I agree though, it would definately be interesting to see...
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Ben

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