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The ORANGE STRIPED female had her litter >>

STUART Jun 28, 2003 05:07 PM

Well I cant say Im not a little dissapointed cause I am. No striped babies at all well this one little striped tail is as close as I got. Sure looks like a jungle huh? LOL. Any how she had 11 babies 1 slug not too bad for a first time breeding maybe her stripe is simple recessive making all these hets? Who knows. Im still wondering about the color is it simple recessive too? Hmmmmmmm.

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cory_b Jun 28, 2003 05:23 PM

I wouldn't be too disappointed. You have learned something, and are now one step closer to accomplishing your goal. That girl has got to have nice genes, I'm sure it will pay off in the end! Do you know what the parents looked like?

H+E Stoeckl Jun 28, 2003 06:52 PM

Although I am not fond of crossbreeds this animals is one of the nicest I have ever seen. Don't be disappointed that the babies haven't inherited the stripes, because I believe that I can judge by their appearence that they have inherited the orange color. And this makes them outstanding nice boas.

Congrats on this success!
Boa constrictor

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giantkeeper Jun 28, 2003 07:03 PM

to crap with your mouth. Those are beautiful babies with quite a bit of color for newbies. Give credit where credit is due and for G*D's sake stop the stupid comments "although I do not like crossbreeds" such a prick!
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There are no STUPID QUESTIONS just STUPID PEOPLE.....quoted by the common sense committee

Hoppy Jun 28, 2003 07:50 PM

Everyone knows that Hermann considers breeding of different localities to be a "crossbreed" It may not be the exact term that we use here in the USA, but it is not much different than using Cracker or Yankee to talk about different localites of people here in the US. I read Hermanns Comment as saying,,"Don't be dissapointed that the Striped gene did not show itself with the first breeding, you still produced beautiful babies". What you seemed to have seen was "I don't like your crossbeeds".
I think you are going a bit too hard on Hermann the German....
As for your Striped Boa Stuart, that girl is beautiful. I would not give up on the Stripe. Just because it did not prove to be Co-Dom does not mean it is not genetic. I would keep at least 3.3 of the litter and breed it back. In about 18 months you can breed one of the baby males back to the mother to see if it is a genetic trait.
Good luck with it.
Jim Hopkins

jthurber Jun 29, 2003 02:17 AM

jthurber Jun 29, 2003 02:27 AM

My lines are crossed more than I am.

JohnLokken Jun 28, 2003 07:19 PM

I just don't get you a lot of the time. I guess I should stop beating my head against the wall trying to.
John
Great babies Stuart!! Congrats on them.
John
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"To be the best..........You must lose your mind."

H+E Stoeckl Jun 28, 2003 07:40 PM

... from what location this animal is (or rather the ancestors were)?

The babies from a Boa c. imperator out of Colombia bred to a Boa c. imperator from Mexico (just for instance) are crosses in my eyes even when they are both Boa c. imperator.

There had been no bad intend in my posting, I just wanted to say that I like the appearence of this animal even it's no true locality specific boa.

This is quite an exception since I regard most of the morph and cross stuff I see in this forum as unpreposessing (to put it mildly).
Boa constrictor

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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

JohnLokken Jun 28, 2003 08:09 PM

The BCI's are from the same locality. Just by seeing the babies. But, again.......That is my assumption.

I actually agree with you from a "locality" stance. I also think that if you breed a Mexican BCI with a Colombian BCI that this is a "cross" of sorts. If you look at things that closely. I personally don't. A BCI is a BCI to me. I think that the true crosses are Argentines x BCI's......Things like that.

Again, we look at things VERY differently. Neither one of us will change one anothers mind on things.

I do enjoy how "anal" you are with your animals. I think it does have it's place. And, I know that others enjoy you beliefs. But, I personally don't see a BCI being bred with a BCI to be a cross.

My 2 cents for whatever that's worth.
John
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"To be the best..........You must lose your mind."

boavoyage Jun 28, 2003 09:04 PM

I just wanted to say that I like the appearence of this animal even it's no true locality specific boa.

In one of your old post, you admitted that you produce a litter of Surinames, some of them have abberant(sp?) pattern. Furthermore, you also admitted that their grandfather has the same abberant pattern. Do you think if they have the appearance of true locality Suriname?

STUART Jun 28, 2003 08:19 PM

Thanks for the kind words actually lol. I guess some people just read a little more into it. I am hoping they turn really nicely orange. This female didnt turn orange for some time after I got her as a little baby. One day she shed and whammo she was orange lol.

H+E Stoeckl Jun 28, 2003 08:28 PM

She looks just beautiful. That's what I wanted to say. I always speak my mind regardless conventions.

And if I would some day buy another animal beside a true locality specific boa I would buy this female (I know, she is not for sale).

You can not expect the babies to be orange like her before their third year of life, I think.

As Hoppy mentioned, maybe you get your stripes later *LOL*
Boa constrictor

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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

obz Jun 28, 2003 07:22 PM

you may have some hets on your hands! great looking babies!

Hoppy Jun 28, 2003 08:30 PM

Or maybe it is just a agng tatoo LOL, but the picture looks like your snake has a little brown tear drop coming from her eye. I think she is sad you were not more happy with her babies.....
Just kidding on the sad thing, but it really dose look like a brown tear tatoo LOL
Just noticed it
Jim

STUART Jun 28, 2003 10:20 PM

But I must say after pacing around and waiting and waiting for hopefully striped babies to look in and see none was a little disappointing. Oh well maybe its simple recessive that will just make them more expensive right? LOL And hey I guess they could have been sweet potatos right?

shawn boorman Jun 29, 2003 12:02 AM

That is an awsome looking boa. Thats the closest to a jungle you can get without being one. I definately think you should consider the babies to be het for stripe, I would. Would like to see pics of the rest of the litter and if you are going to offer any for sale.
Shawn Boorman
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