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a few Qs on U.Phantasticus and U.Ebenaui

vanth Oct 18, 2004 11:49 AM

I’ve spent the last few months building a very natural looking 30 gallon terrarium. In one area is has a filtered 4 inch deep pool of water but the rest is sold ground, with growing spider plant, bromeliads and other plants. The ground also has a moss and lichen covering. I was thinking of housing a small group of U.Phantasticus or U.Ebenaui in there but before I go further into my research on the species I want to ask a few questions that probably require a little first hand experience to answer.

1. Do pools of water pose a danger to these geckos? As stated before one area of the terrarium has a 4 inch deep pool of water which is continuously filtered (it is very still though, not much current), it is also very easy to climb out of.
2. How sensitive are these geckos to bacteria? The tank is perfectly clean but do to the immense diversity in moss species, plant species and the over all high humidity there seems the potential for a lot for a lot of undetected bacterial growth. Would this pose a serious threat to the geckos? Are they hypersensitive to this in any way?
3. I was also considering housing a pair of mantellas in there, they shouldn’t be small enough for the geckos to eat, however I have kept various species of gecko in the past that were always ‘willing to try’ things far to large for them to eat. Is this a characteristic of these geckos?

Thanks,

Vanth

Replies (7)

boy Oct 19, 2004 06:01 PM

Never mix Amphibians and reptiles. You do not know what kind of toxins your phibs may harbor. And as you stated, sometimes animals are willing to try and consume things they should not, I would use your own statements to make a wise decision. And at that, do not mix phibs and reps - accidents waiting to happen.

attchoum Oct 20, 2004 07:58 AM

one of my friend have housed a pair of uropaltus fimbriatus, a pair of chameleon lateralis, and 6 mantellas in a very large vivarium...

after few week he remove the chameleon lateralis cause the uroplatus wake them during the night...

but the mantella and the fimbri are togeter for 2 years now... both of them have breed several time...

the fact is... the mantella are diurnal and work on ground... the uroplatus are nocturnal and hight climber

my friend never have probleme and it's fimbriatus, the bigest uropaltus...

i think you would not have probleme put mantella and phantasticus togeter if your terra is do for... provide a lots of hiding place for the mantella... and put hight branche for uroplatus but no low branche... and no oportunity for mantella to climb...

the decision is up to you...
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1.1 Bearded Dragons
1.2 Uroplatus Sikorae
1.0 Uroplatus Phantasticus

vanth Oct 20, 2004 08:23 AM

Thanks you two for your imput, if I end up mixing species however it won't be for a looong time so I have plenty of time to chew on that issue. However before I start going out and buying geckos I am more concerned about their cage enviornment,
does anyone have any imput for the first two questions?

thanks

attchoum Oct 20, 2004 04:55 PM

sorry i dont know if uropaltus know how to swim...
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1.1 Bearded Dragons
1.2 Uroplatus Sikorae
1.0 Uroplatus Phantasticus

russ31 Oct 23, 2004 01:25 PM

i have satanics and i have to a little pool too my males like it cause my males drink way more water than my females and drink it then they just leave when my females got in it they quickly got out also i tried a 3inch one time and i think its to deep for them cause when they swim they go side to side and a not good at it so i took the pool out but the choice is yours

Reptiluvr Oct 22, 2004 02:52 PM

I have never heard of anyone using pools of water in Uroplatus cages. I don't know what the effects might be. I think at night though, they may slip into it a couple times. Assuming survival, they will probably soon learn to stay away. I wouldn't recommend it though. Don't forget these animals are only 4-5" in total length.

Reptiluvr Oct 22, 2004 02:55 PM

Oh yea, forgot about the bacteria part. I don't think you should worry too much. You may want to watch out for fungi growing in the medium after a while. Even if it doesn't get too wet, I have found mushrooms and other fungi in cages. They could be harmful. As long as you have ample air flow most of the time you'll be safe. Don't use a glass top. I always wanted to buy/build cages that had small vents in the sides to provide better airflow throughout the whole depth of the cage instead of sometimes having the bottom of the cage warm and the upper area cool.

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