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I wonder, are there any Dwarf Caimans, or species that would be relatively practical to keep, for a person of somewhat modest means? I am willing to spend some money, just not $10k or more to set it up, I am figuring a couple grand for the whole deal.
I have always wanted a croc of some kind, but I have never had a spot to keep one. Until now. I have kept several dozend species of reptiles in my life, but never a croc, though I have always wanted one.. I have a 23'x11' room that I want to put an indoor pond in. I don't want it to take up the whole room, however. So, a small croc species, somewhat available to the public. I am willing to pay a decent sum for the right animal.
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checking your state, county, city, town, home owner's association laws to make sure that it is legal to keep a crocodilian. Then read the Captive Crocodilian Care FAQ at - http://crocodilian.com/crocfaq/
Don't be too concerned about the initial cost of a healthy animal as that will quickly become a trivial expense when compared to the expense of properly housing, feeding and maintaining a subadult or adult animal. Keep in mind that a properly maintained crocodilian will be a live long commitment.

Yeah, there are no regulations in Idaho, except for venomous, even then they are nominal.
I did say I was willing to spend a couple thousand dollars on the initial set up...so I am not sure where you are coming from giving me "the talk" about how much it will cost. I have about ...44 reptiles, 50 rats and a couple of dogs, all in great health. I am fairly confident that I know what kind of cost I would be getting into. And I am not looking to jump into this in a week. I would be doing a 2-3 month remodel on my house first. I am specifically asking for advice about species. Thanks anyway, for your well-meaning post.
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Friend, "the talk" and direction to the Crocodilian Captive Care FAQ are pretty much the standard protocol for people interested in or just starting out with crocodilians. The FAQ offers a great deal of information and insight to potential crocodilian owners as well as specific information on the common species available in the pet trade.

I can go find out for myself,I was hoping for a creative or thoughtful response. I have read the Croc FAQ you mentioned, before I posted. Let it go. I am not a 14 year old.
I am again disappointed in the croc forum.

Paul Bodnar seems to be about the most reasonable and easy to get along with guy here, and after I got over the initial spat with CDieter, and GJensen, they seem like good people too.

Is it also protocol to make new people pick a fight on this forum before they can get a simple answer to a simple question? No wonder there isn't much going on here. It's not very community oriented.
It could have gone like this:
"Paleosuchus palpebrosus is about the only choice for a small species, eh? Well, thanks for anwering my question buddy, I'll be on my way!"

I wish...

Thank you very little for your detached, and condescending reply, John.
No offense to the rest of you. Thank you.
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you really only have a couple choices

Smooth front caiman, Cuviers Dwarf caiman, Dwarf crocodile or a Diamond Caiman which is a hybrid (spectacle x yacare)

But the Dwarf would I think be next to impossible to get in Idaho

You can find all species other than Dwarfs on the classifieds market board here at Kingsnake.
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I did a little more research, and I came to the same conclusion, but thank you sincerely.
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Jeremy,

I'm glad that you had the opportunity to read Croc FAQ.

As you found out the Cuvier's dwarf caiman (P. palpebrosus) is the smallest species of crocodilian followed by the smooth-fronted caiman (P. trigonatus) and the African dwarf crocodile (O. tetraspis). The African dwarf croc is usually much more difficult to obtain than either of the dwarf caimans. Between the two species of dwarf caiman I have found trigonatus more difficult to handle mainly due to its greater physical strength over a similar sized palpebrosus.

An adult P. palpebrosus

A sub adult P. trigonatus

John

That's a very cool post of you to make after the razzing I gave you. Thanks man.
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If you read the FAQ before you posted, Im not really sure why you needed to ask the question in the 1st place. You seem internet savy in that you could even find this forum, so one would guess that you could find the classifieds as well to see what was available. I dont understand how you could be disappointed in this forum when you had all the answers you needed already in your grasp. There are too many people out there that already give croc owners a bad rep and we get newbie questions like yours 5- 10 times a month by kids thinking its cool to own a dangerous animal. John (a contributing member to this small group) assumed that if you actually serious and had read the FAQ or browsed this website you could have found out the exact same things that were posted on your own. But since you didnt, he mentioned reading the FAQ as the 1st step since it answers all your questions. Thanks for passing through though.

>>I can go find out for myself,I was hoping for a creative or thoughtful response. I have read the Croc FAQ you mentioned, before I posted. Let it go. I am not a 14 year old.
>>I am again disappointed in the croc forum.
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>>Paul Bodnar seems to be about the most reasonable and easy to get along with guy here, and after I got over the initial spat with CDieter, and GJensen, they seem like good people too.
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>>Is it also protocol to make new people pick a fight on this forum before they can get a simple answer to a simple question? No wonder there isn't much going on here. It's not very community oriented.
>>It could have gone like this:
>>"Paleosuchus palpebrosus is about the only choice for a small species, eh? Well, thanks for anwering my question buddy, I'll be on my way!"
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>>I wish...
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>>Thank you very little for your detached, and condescending reply, John.
>>No offense to the rest of you. Thank you.
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>>Jeremy J. Anderson
>>snakepimp.com
>>email me!
>>No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful. Everybody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful.
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I am fairly internet savvy, I just thought there might be something more to learn, and as it turns out, there is. There are more decent people out there than I expected, and criticizing people just embarrasses the guy who is doing the criticizing.

Me
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Jeremy J. Anderson
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No one in the world ever gets what they want, and that is beautiful. Everybody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful.