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I just got home to see this package sitting on top of the mailbox. I opened it and it's his medicine from Doug.

It's called Baytril.

Dose as follows: 1cc for every 150 grams animal weight.

How can I tell how much he weighs? I haven't been able to find a digital scale anywhere.

Should I put him on the people scale?
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2 mali uro's-Ares and Apollo
2 saharan uro's-Orion and Iris
2 bearded dragon-Hades and Draco
1 leo gecko-Kalypso
1 tokaye gecko-Sid Vicious
1 tarantula-Peter Parker
1 dog-cheeka
1 zebra finch-beeps
1 african gray parrot-keya
1 red headed parrot-pancho
And some fish

I have used Baytril on many many different reptiles in the past. I dont have a Uro so this isnt uro specific information, just general. Make sure make sure make sure that your uro stays hydrated while on this medicine. That seemed to be the biggest problem i encountered while working with my vet and administering this medicine.

and any scale that will weigh in small enough amounts will work, like a small digi scale. Call your vet too, many vets will weigh animals for free.
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1.0 green iguana-Deitrich
1.1 Common Boa-Un-Named, Ursula
1.0 Ball Python-Anabell (go figure!)
1.0 Red Tegu-Uteg
1.0 Albino Cal King-Pig
0.1 Mexican Black King-Morticia
1.1 Bearded Dragons-Unnamed, Hanabil
1.0 Albino San Diego Gopher-Unnamed
0.1 Hermans tort-Esio
1.1 JCP-Milton, Medusa
1.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn-Unnamed
0.1 Snow Corn-Unnamed
1.0 Hypo Okeetee Corn-Unnamed
0.1 Motley Okeetee-Unnamed
1.0 Western Hoggie-Wyrm
0.0.1 Rose Hair Taruntla-Unnamed
2.0 Leopard Geckos-Reptar, Pogo
4.1 cats-Tucker,Poe,Abhib,Emerald, Felicity
0.1 Bullmastiff-Asha

We don't have a herp vet, but maybe the vet we use for our dog will do so. However it is about 30 degrees outside and pouring down rain. Maybe I can borrow one or something.

I'll keep him hydrated.

Although he doesn't like drinking water straight. Just give him more peas because they are juicy.
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2 mali uro's-Ares and Apollo
2 saharan uro's-Orion and Iris
2 bearded dragon-Hades and Draco
1 leo gecko-Kalypso
1 tokaye gecko-Sid Vicious
1 tarantula-Peter Parker
1 dog-cheeka
1 zebra finch-beeps
1 african gray parrot-keya
1 red headed parrot-pancho
And some fish

In a pinch you can use the scales people use to weigh food. Digital is best, but analog will give you a general idea. Normal people scales generally won't measure small enough. All of our local wal-marts carry the food scales in their cooking sections. Any cooking store shoudl have them too, though I would call first, especially in the weather we are having! (I live in Indiana and we are having the same cold wet weather)

Another option is if you have a sibling still in high school, particularly taking physics, they can borrow a scale that will work. There are scales that they use to measure the force of friction and things like that. They are small and have hooks on the end of a spring. If you create a little pouch out of a handkerchief and hook that onto that type of scale that should work too. You can buy them fairly inexpensively, though I am not sure where from without ordering them online. A sporting goods store maybe? since they are often used to measure the weight of caught fish...? I think I would check wal-mart first though for the food scales.

Also, just as a general point of knowledge, Betadine should not be taken internally. I just mention it since we had been talking about it before. I have never used Baytril, but if hydration is a problem you may want to consider soaking him, though making sure the water is warm enough, and that he stays really warm when drying so he doesn't get a chill.

Good luck with everything! Thank you for keeping us posted!

Elizabeth
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1.0 Uro Archimedes
0.0 Fish
0.1 Sulcata Minnie
1.1 Iguanas Flik and Loki
0.1 Newfoundland Jasmine
0.1 Feline Winter
Indiana & Wisconsin

Got a scale about 50 minutes ago. Got home and weighed Orion and Iris, then the other uro's Apollo and Ares, then I also weighed Kalypso my leo gecko.

Orion-90 grams
Iris-80 grams
Apollo-120 grams
Ares-130 grams
Kalypso-70 grams

Orion's is in the 8-9 inch range and Iris is about 6 1/2 - 7 1/2 inch range (she's younger and smaller then Orion).

I also talked to Doug. He said to weigh Orion and Iris both again in 3 days and call him. If Orion's gaining weight then I probably won't have to give him meds, but if he's losing then it is most likely that I will.
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2 mali uro's-Ares and Apollo
2 saharan uro's-Orion and Iris
2 bearded dragon-Hades and Draco
1 leo gecko-Kalypso
1 tokaye gecko-Sid Vicious
1 tarantula-Peter Parker
1 dog-cheeka
1 zebra finch-beeps
1 african gray parrot-keya
1 red headed parrot-pancho
And some fish

maybe it is me, but those weights seem really low. helga is about 12 inches and your boy is about 9 so he is 75% of helga's length but he is only 30% of her weight. maybe someone else can comment on this.....
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***

Orion's only about a year old Doug estimated. Iris is younger then that. Remember, it took the post office 4 days to get me Orion when it should have only taken 2. It also took the post office 5 days to get me Iris, when it should have only taken 2.

They have been gaining weight since I got them. Both of them have. Iris ate the first day I had her. Where as it took 2 weeks of me offering the freshest and biggest variety of greens to get Orion to eat (when I first got him, Doug said it might take up to 2 weeks for him to get adjusted).
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2 mali uro's-Ares and Apollo
2 saharan uro's-Orion and Iris
2 bearded dragon-Hades and Draco
1 leo gecko-Kalypso
1 tokaye gecko-Sid Vicious
1 tarantula-Peter Parker
1 dog-cheeka
1 zebra finch-beeps
1 african gray parrot-keya
1 red headed parrot-pancho
And some fish

i wasn't attacking you or anything. your pics have always looked good and i just thought it was weird that there would have been such a weight difference between species. but now i know that there is.
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***

I didn't think you were attacking me. So no harm no foul.

I do take good photos though. Thats what happens when I take a years worth of photography classes. I know how to make 35mm film cameras and photo paper cameras. Getting good lighting is really the key in making stuff look bigger then it appears.

Diff species diff weights. Just as long as they are eating, happy and healthy isn't that all that really matters?
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2 mali uro's-Ares and Apollo
2 saharan uro's-Orion and Iris
2 bearded dragon-Hades and Draco
1 leo gecko-Kalypso
1 tokaye gecko-Sid Vicious
1 tarantula-Peter Parker
1 dog-cheeka
1 zebra finch-beeps
1 african gray parrot-keya
1 red headed parrot-pancho
And some fish

Triad,

Need to address a couple of comments you made.

You indicated that both of your uros have been gaining weight since you got them as both have been eating. At the weight you just mentioned above, it might be a little difficult to visually judge whether or not your uros have actually gained weight. Just because a uro is eating, does not necessarily mean that it is gaining weight which brings me to your next statement:

“Just as long as they are eating, happy and healthy isn't that all that really matters”

No, not really. First of all it is difficult for us to know whether a uromastyx is healthy or happy. We can assume this from a pattern of behaviors (that ‘we’ then attempt to interpret) but we really do not know.
Secondly, a uromastyx could eat on a daily basis for a long period of time without gaining weight. Improper temps, diet, parasites …ect could all play a roll. Eating does not necessarily mean that everything is ok.

I would still suggest contacting Doug for the pre-shipping weight. I am not saying that your uros have not gained weight, just that you cannot assume that they have just because they have been eating. The fact that you are dealing with a health issue right now should prompt you to take a close look at everything including the history of the weight of your uromastyx over these past three months.

>>I would still suggest contacting Doug for the pre-shipping weight.

Here's what I sent to Doug:

Do you have a weight for the Male Saharan and the
second Female Saharan you sent me?

I'd just like to know that way I can keep track of
their weights and lenghts.

Thanks

Here's what I got back:

I don't have a way to track who was who once they are shipped. My ID's are based in part on which cage they are in and the data is replaced once they ship. I reuse ID's for new specimens so the old data is not retrievable.

Doug

So now I have no way in telling how much either of them weighed before I got them. Now I pick up every animal I have on a daily basis. And I can tell if they've gained weight because they feel heavier and they are harder to get my hand around because they are getting so fat. I also monitor the tails and make sure that the tail and body look like they are getting bigger. If the tail is bigger then I know they've probably gained a little bit of weight.

Oh and the line " Just as long as they are eating, happy and healthy isn't that all that really matters?" is a reaction quote.

I saw it on a website. Those are not my words. My fingers did the walking but I did not do the talking. And sometimes I type so fast I forget to put stuff in like quotation marks.
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2 mali uro's-Ares and Apollo
2 saharan uro's-Orion and Iris
2 bearded dragon-Hades and Draco
1 leo gecko-Kalypso
1 tokaye gecko-Sid Vicious
1 tarantula-Peter Parker
1 dog-cheeka
1 zebra finch-beeps
1 african gray parrot-keya
1 red headed parrot-pancho
And some fish

Triad

The picture you posted three months ago of these uros looked pretty good. Although pictures can occasionally be deceiving, it would be interesting to see how much they weight now compared to when they were shipped. Doug keeps records of most of his weights so drop him an email and ask if he can give you the last weight he has listed for these two including the date of that most recent weight. The photo he sent to you should have a description name on it- use that in your email for a reference.

Jeune,

Different species tend to have different body types where some tend to be more bulky or have more tail mass including a different tail to body ratio. Comparing a mali of a specific length with a geryi (or any two separate species) may not always be a fair comparison.

thanks for the info! it is always nice to learn something new
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vonnie
***There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. Mary Wilson Little ***