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Leopard geckos & cannibalisim

stilltrippin Oct 19, 2004 04:31 PM

Has anyone heard of leos eating each other? Well, I had one to eat a smaller one about a week ago and since then he doesn't eat, he looks dehydrated and he just sits around with his eyes closed, even at night. Is this something I should be concerned about? And should I be worried about my other geckos eating each other? I would appreciate any info. Thanks.

Replies (13)

fragilesoul Oct 19, 2004 04:53 PM

First of all, never house babies with adults.

Secondly, my guess is the leo can't digest the bone and is impacted.

My 2 cents
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SpikeNsquirt Oct 19, 2004 05:02 PM

From what I understand if you put a little one in with a big one it would try to eat it. I have never had any problems, but all of mine that are housed together are the same size. All of our little ones are housed individualy.

Evangelus Oct 19, 2004 06:05 PM

That's terrible..... I really wish you could of used some common sense and not gone off housing the smaller one with a larger one..
Like another person stated, it's possible your gecko is impacted with bone, but he could just be full..
Please use your head next time. Be a responsible and sensible herper.
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-Britney

Atlantic Reptiles(In the works)

2.4.1 Leopard Geckos: Ron, Raine, Dream, Tango, Go-Go, Johnneh and Salleh.
0.0.1 Lined Snake: Monty(Released back into the wild!)
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: No name yet, lol.

stilltrippin Oct 19, 2004 07:45 PM

They were both juvenile geckos. The only difference in their size was about an inch or so including tails. That is why I was so surprised that it happened. Yes, it is unfortunate, but it's not like I put a baby in with a big hungry adult. As for being an irrisponsible herper, all of my animals are very healthy and happy. This is the first ugly incident in about 6 years of herp keeping. Thanks for your concern, but I am not ignorant.
(just to name a few)
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normal corn
anery corn
lavender albino king
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banded cal king
1.5 leopard geckos
bearded dragon
1.1 ball pythons
4 aussies

Evangelus Oct 19, 2004 11:05 PM

An inch..? Think of the possibilties that could of come from seperating them.. Your the one who took the risk.. I won't mention names, but I knew a guy in Canada who blew your reptile collection out of the water(He even had experience with Caimans, etc..) and he was still exetremely irresponsible.. I don't need to see your list of herps to prove that you know everything, that's not what were here for.. Just try and understand this is just coming from a concerned Leopard Gecko keeper, alright? Most people would agree that seperating is the best method, instead of taking risks..
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-Britney

Atlantic Reptiles(In the works)

2.4.1 Leopard Geckos: Ron, Raine, Dream, Tango, Go-Go, Johnneh and Salleh.
0.0.1 Lined Snake: Monty(Released back into the wild!)
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: No name yet, lol.

Evangelus Oct 19, 2004 11:10 PM

Like I stated in the last post.. You don't need to get defensive because I wasn't trying to come off snotty or anything.. Just expressing my concern. I'm not here to start arguements. At least next time you'll know.. Because when geckos get hungry they'll gladly take a smaller gecko.
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-Britney

Atlantic Reptiles(In the works)

2.4.1 Leopard Geckos: Ron, Raine, Dream, Tango, Go-Go, Johnneh and Salleh.
0.0.1 Lined Snake: Monty(Released back into the wild!)
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: No name yet, lol.

Snarks Oct 19, 2004 11:38 PM

I'd like to take a different approach.
An inch difference? That's pretty crazy. How a leo managed to stuff something that was only an inch smaller than it, is pretty hard to fathom. Just everyone go look at your leos, how can it fit something in its belly that large, say if your leo is 9 inches, something 8 inches long.
Im surprised it didn't choke to death.
I cannot imagine why that would of happened unless they were severely hungry

anyhue, confused

Evangelus Oct 20, 2004 01:00 AM

Yeah, I know.. I don't want to go about accusing people, but an inch does sound out of question. Had this gecko been fed recently at all? I'm also surprised it didn't choke a quarter of the way through. This gecko(Smaller..) would of had to be of exetremely small stature and very frail in order for this to be doable. Geckos, unlike snakes can obviously not dislocate their jaw in order to swallow down such large prey.
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-Britney

Atlantic Reptiles(In the works)

2.4.1 Leopard Geckos: Ron, Raine, Dream, Tango, Go-Go, Johnneh and Salleh.
0.0.1 Lined Snake: Monty(Released back into the wild!)
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: No name yet, lol.

stilltrippin Oct 20, 2004 10:29 AM

Why would I even bother to post this if it were as simple as everyone seems to think. No my geckos were not severly hungry, they get crickets and mealworms as often as they like.(dusted with calcium) If it were something as simple as size or hunger I would not even bother to go looking for answers. Yes the gecko was quite full, as you can imagine, he looked like he had a golf ball in his belly. This whole thing is quite perplexing, and the only thing I can figure out is this forum was not made for people looking for anwers, but to get ridiculed and scorned like I am some kind of idiot. Thanks for nothing.

tim5580 Oct 20, 2004 11:08 AM

Just because he ate it doesn't mean he was hungry. It could have seen it as a threat, competition for food, mates, territory, not wanting to mate with him, or it could have just hated the other for no reason. Also you never mentioned if it was 2 males or 2 females or one of each housed together. It probably ate it after it killed it because that is what it's instincts tell it to.

But it seems every time someone posts something that makes them look dumb, they get all pissed off because someone points it out. Like the "My 14 foot python got loose because I kept him loose in the house and animal control killed it when it got into the old lady next door's house" type of stories.
And this forum gives tons of good advice. Your just pissed because someone pointed out you were wrong in housing them together.

>>Why would I even bother to post this if it were as simple as everyone seems to think. No my geckos were not severly hungry, they get crickets and mealworms as often as they like.(dusted with calcium) If it were something as simple as size or hunger I would not even bother to go looking for answers. Yes the gecko was quite full, as you can imagine, he looked like he had a golf ball in his belly. This whole thing is quite perplexing, and the only thing I can figure out is this forum was not made for people looking for anwers, but to get ridiculed and scorned like I am some kind of idiot. Thanks for nothing.
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Snarks Oct 20, 2004 11:20 AM

If you want to avoid critism then either clarify your posts, provide details on sizes/weight, ages and setup, if you don't believe its a husbantry problem then no one can give you advice. Whatever happens to our pets is our fault they are not in natural environments where other things affect them, if we as keepers fail to give them something then the animals will suffer.
In your case of one leo eating another approx the same size as it, i have no idea how and why it would of happened. For instance I am completely confused as to how it phsycially happened. There is also no motivation for a Leo to eat something that bloody big, mistaken tails yes but a whole one. Are there signs of fight?

Anyways I treat everyone as an amature since I am also one, I dont know what you were expecting as answers from us as this story is quite disturbing.

Evangelus Oct 20, 2004 12:48 PM

You know they've made some excellent points. You came here looking for an answer-- And you got several, plus critism due to lack of details. This story IS very disturbing, so yes were wondering how this could ever be managed between two geckos of almost the exact same size. The story really doesn't fit still, but there's nothing we can do about it besides.. Take precaution when housing Leopard Geckos together and make sure that they have everything they need for a stress-free environment. Also, if your putting two geckos in together, don't place them together then walk away. Try to watch how they interact and be sure that they're either male and female or female and female. I don't want help-seekers coming here asking questions then being scolded, but some people here will be firm with you. Also when your seeking tel and getting answers, don't get angry with the results because you were merely asking for them(I know there's difficult individuals to deal with here.. In this situation I was appalled and I let the fur fly.)

I don't like or enjoy belittling others, so don't take it that way, but hopefully from the replies you've gotten you will learn more from this situation and remember to post details, because the way you had stated the cannibalism was very unprofessional for someone of your "expertise".. Good luck next time..
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-Britney

Atlantic Reptiles(In the works)

2.4.1 Leopard Geckos: Ron, Raine, Dream, Tango, Go-Go, Johnneh and Salleh.
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: Lil' Little.

Evangelus Oct 20, 2004 12:50 PM

N/P
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-Britney

Atlantic Reptiles(In the works)

2.4.1 Leopard Geckos: Ron, Raine, Dream, Tango, Go-Go, Johnneh and Salleh.
0.0.1 Bearded Dragon: Lil' Little.

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