Really,I would like an answer to this question!Like the post down below,Its obvious that the person that is asking the questions is a kid,possibly doing a school project an very possible,that he/she isnt even using english as their main source of language!But once again,instead of answering this person's question's,they are insulted about their grammer!Or even better yet another area of their discussion is choosen to pick at an their questions still aren't answered!An 9 times out of 10 an arguement breaks out over it an the whole sourse of the question is forgotten!"WHY"If your not going to answer anyone's question why even take the time to post to it!I thought,the main source of the boa forum was to learn more an to discuss different topic's about boa's!An to help new commers learn to care for their new boa's,wether they have a husbandry,feeding,or even if their boa is sick!Or the number 1 argueing topic is,What is this boa?Over the past year I have spoken to quite a few people who didn't have coputers when they began in this hobby!An they don't agree that they had it harder as far as learning goes,But they don't hold it against us either!An they sure in the heck don't hollar at anyone about "SPELLING"!I personally am probably one of the worst spellers on this forum,I am man enough to admitt it!But I feel that with alot of people it isn't their spelling that causes these problem's!It's the typing!I am sorry if this post upsets anyone but when we down a child that has came to us for knowladge about their spelling instead of giving that person the knowladge that they have asked for,then we need to step back an look at how low we have actually dropped!An maybe just maybe some of us need's to work on our manners!Just my opinion!Thanks Eric[Hypoboa]
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"WHY IS DOWNING SOMEONE FOR THEIR SPELLING MORE IMPORTANT THAN THEIR QUESTION?"
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Perhaps correcting one's gramatical errors is more important than the question they asked. Logically conveying one's ideas to another is much more important than any situational "problem" with one's animals. Moreover, if one cannot speak (or type in this situation) then others may question one's ability to keep animals at all (its gone through my mind atleast once on this forum). I encourage everyone who submits questions or comments on this forum to use the Preview function that is avaiable at the bottom of the screen before posting. One read-through may keep others from dishing out gramatical flapdoodle, and may also improve the way others receive you.
Eliot Stone
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pre·ten·tious( P )
Pronunciation Key (pr-tnshs)
adj. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified.
Making or marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious. See Synonyms at showy.
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pre·tentious·ly adv.
pre·tentious·ness n.
pretentious
Pre*ten"tious, a. [Cf. F. pr['e]tentieux. See Pretend.] Full of pretension; disposed to lay claim to more than is one's; presuming; assuming. -- Pre*ten"tious*ly, adv. -- Pre*ten"tious*ness, n.
pretentious
adj 1: making claim to or creating an appearance of (often undeserved) importance or distinction; "a pretentious country house"; "a pretentious fraud"; "a pretentious scholarly edition" [ant: unpretentious] 2: intended to attract notice and impress others; "an ostentatious sable coat" [syn: ostentatious] [ant: unostentatious] 3: of a display that is tawdry or vulgar [syn: ostentatious, kitsch]
Very good use of resources, very commendable for a canadian.
Eliot Stone
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The English language is absolutely mangled on this forum. It really bothers me, but I just keep it to myself most of the time. It is scary to think that these people went through American school systems.
np
That can be true to a degree. I went through public school in the U.S. and I think that the way teachers allow students to just slip by without trying is really the problem, and not the course work assigned at the schools. If one wants an education in America, one really has to gain it for themselves. In other words, a highschool diploma means nothing. Anyway, on to Boa Constrictors, let's see some more B.c.c.
Eliot Stone
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You don't know if these people went to American schools unless you actually know the person. American schools are not the reason people cannot think, spell, etc. Just as McDonald's is not the reason someone burned his/her leg with hot coffee. The people that cannot think, spell, keep from burning themselves with coffee, etc. are responsible for their own actions and behaviors. There are people that have disabilities that hinder their ability to learn, but almost all students that do not succeed in school fail to do so because they do not put in the effort necessary. Heaven forbid they should have to do something that isn't "fun," or that feels like work, or that they have to follow some rules. I do not think spelling a word incorrectly or using incorrect punctuation here and there makes someone dumb, but if it is extensive then I really question the person's intelligence. Spelling and punction are basics of education that are repeatedly taught from an early age. there are different types of statements that can be made. Not all of them are in an excited mode! Every word anD every sentence should have a space afterward. The word and has a "d" at the end of it!
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Think of it ... Understand the points made and are good points . But the problem since almost every household has the internet is Instant messenger programs.By this i mean on IM programs like AIM abbreviations are perfectly acceptable form of chatting for instance we all have used LOL in a post instead of typing out laugh out loud , we have all used IMO or IMHO versus typing out in my opinon or in my honest opinion we type TTYL over talk to you later or BBIAB over be back in a bit there are literally hundres or possibly thousnads of words that are used in IM programs that have become the "accpeted norm" for comunicating online hell there are even websites that explain these abbreviations and are there to encourage chatter to use them to make the chatting "easier" to follow. i remember the first time i ever used a chat room i thought "what in the hell are these people typing !!!! lol . It all boils down to this we can make all the ASSumptions we want as to the literary capabilities of others and do so freely and without recourse on the internet as its a faceless venue to express yourself.But because they choose to use that type here doesnt mean every person that does so is "uneducated" "stupid" ignorant or other demeaning words it means that might ... just might be the wqay they type or as worn into the ground a 2nd language to them they fully dont understand the use of when typing ... i mean hell if i were to go to russia lol i could write hello.
And again this post is full of incorrect puntuations , un spaced sentences , uncapitolized words such as i/I but i dont really care its easy for me to type out what i have to say in a way i can convey my thought then to worry whether or not its going to not pass the final cut on the editors board before posting here .
The saddest part of the forums is that posts that are made where people belittle spelling & grammar errors are not warned or removed they are "flaming posts" and are left in place and the real posts that have subject to them as to people who misrepresent animals or backgrounds etc etc are yanked like there a fuse that will burn down the house. if the effort in making new commers and old alike that are flamed for minor mistakes that just irk someone are addressed handled like the other type threads of people who scam etc then the forums wouldnt have this discussion in the first place ... priorities are sometimes overlooked because the effort to do so may cause that person to have to take more time to do the job ... no offense to any mods on this forum but thats how it does look
flame on .....
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np
ok lets look at the grammer police captain a minute ...
as corrected by MS word spell check .
your post
Perhaps correcting one's gramatical(grammatical was suggested by MS spell check ) errors is more important than the question they asked. Logically conveying one's ideas to another is much more important than any situational "problem" with one's animals. Moreover, if one cannot speak (or type in this situation) then others may question one's ability to keep animals at all (its gone through my mind atleast9(at least was suggested by MSword once on this forum). I encourage everyone who submits questions or comments on this forum to use the Preview function that is avaiableavailable at the bottom of the screen before posting. One read-through may keep others from dishing out gramatical grammatical flapdoodle, and may also improve the way others receive you.
Eliot Stone
Officer of the Grammer (grammar was suggested as correct spelling)Police
Now as per MS words spell check this is how your post would need to be typed to be correct
Perhaps correcting one's grammatical errors is more important than the question they asked. Logically conveying one's ideas to another is much more important than any situational "problem" with one's animals. Moreover, if one cannot speak (or type in this situation) then others may question one's ability to keep animals at all (its gone through my mind at least once on this forum). I encourage everyone who submits questions or comments on this forum to use the Preview function that is available at the bottom of the screen before posting. One read-through may keep others from dishing out grammatical flapdoodle, and may also improve the way others receive you.
Eliot Stone
Officer of the Grammar Police
now i could give a rats ass how you spelled it but since you were making a point to double check things in preview lol listen to your advice ...
this was done in fun and not flaming take care
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i just did that for the sake of doing so , im sure that 99.5% of the people who post here if they ran there post through MS word spell check they would be SURPRISED at the mistakes in spelling , run on sentences etc etc personally i dont do it because when im posting i want to get the post posted i do make ALOT of mistakes myself but they are normally minimal ones but even being the post can be read and make sense lol its the nature of the web to abbreviate and sometimes i will type as pronounced just for the yehaws of it ....
gives a little flavor to the post to me to see something typed as pronounced lol
im from the south so heres a few ... lol
dog = dawg
shoot = shuit
you all = yall
what = whut
some = sum
sure = shure
and = an
fixin to = ficken to
what = wat
its not in how you type here its wether or not your typing is read for what it is ... wanting to learn or give advice to someone that wants a answer we spend WAY to much time being critical of others and avoiding the topic alot when really allthough the spelling may be less then desired if you make it through the post or maybe even twice im sure you can comprehend there topic ...
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There are many cases I have encountered where it is flat wrong, and I have a much more extensive vocabulary than any version up to 2003. Anyone, in fact who is a reptile enthusiast will have many esoteric terms in their arsenal which MSWord will not recognize, try finding Lampropeltis...no dice.
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I agree with you there , but the basic facts are that i would say that more then 90% of everyone here makes grammatical mistakes and incorrect uses of terms/ words and mispellings in the posts.It basically boils down to if you dont have a masters degree in the english language or something to that effect then something in your post will be wrong at one point or another. and i also agree in your other posts that however bad a persons typing / grammar is that the question is more important then the way its presented.
EX:
HELP MY BOAS DREWLING!!!
I had my boa out taday and notised a clear liquid comming from his mouth an wonder what i shood do? please help me i want to make shure he is ok
Most replies would be
EX:
first you dont need to be keeping boas if you cant care for them NP
You spelling lacks alot to be desired so how can you keep a boa NP
You need to find it a new home as you obviously cant care for him or he wouldnt be sick to start with np
posts made like this should not be posted if you are going to jump to the conclusion that the person for lack of conveying a question is shot down before you ask the husbandry is IMHO pathetic on the part of the ones that answer this way.
Now if in more indepth questions it becomes more evident the snake was just a "coolpet" maybe a reply of you definately need to lesarn better husbandry skills before keeping a snake . Keep in mind NOT every person who has a snake is lucky enough to have years experience and most rely on the local yocal petshop they bought it at to me encourages the keepers that have had yrs more experience in doing so and know tricks and tips to offer this type person . offer them help not critisize them that only make them not ask if they need more help for the fear of being damned for asking . Now while alot ofthe ppl here did tons of research before making the leap into keeping a snake or reptile as a pet that doesnt prohibit the fact that at one time you have had a snake regurge , have RI or something else that can be common in reptiles. years of wisdom is no excuse for a minutes worth of ridicule to a new commer in the hobby it just makes them scared to come forth with these questions when needed.
yes this post is a english teachers nightmare....
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I couldn't agree more. That was rather painful to read, however, due to the veritable lexicon of errors it contained.
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its gone through my mind at least once on this forum)"
"its" should be "it's" as in "it has". Sorry, I couldn't resist having a little fun, LOL, no offense intended.
I agree, Eliot. Yet, I also tend to agree that this is a Boa forum, and the primary concern of it should be Boa constrictors. I have been "flamed" severely for being insensitive to a person who's boa had a very serious medical condition, and I attacked him for his poor spelling. I think it is important that those of us who are "Grammar Fascists" or "Spelling Nazis" take into account the feelings, and possibly highly emotional situations BEFORE ripping them to shreds for their poor command of the English language. I am a very uptight person when it comes to spelling, and I will freely admit it. I am less concerned with grammar, because there are many different manuals of style, with different specifics. I am saddened that this is still a divisive issue.
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I would like to point out, for those of you who think that Eliot is pretentious, that he misspelled grammatical (as "gramatical"
and grammar (as grammer)
No one is immune to errors.
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see canadianherpers post. Actually, I think Elliot is right. As far as the poster that started this, I could read his post just fine. However, there are plenty of regulars here that can't even put together a complete thought, much less a complete sentence. If you write in a convoluted manner, as I often do, your message will get lost. If you just don't care what you post is going to make sense, it will be apparent and that's your perrogative. Keep it up and we'll all be speaking broken English in the future.
As far as answering his(the original post) question, it may be beyond the scope of this forum to describe the 98% of the time my boas are stationary!
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PS- High school is a lot like anything else in life, you get what you put into it.
While we all fat finger the keys from time to time, and make basic spelling and gramatical errors, when someone types up something to the effect of...
"hi me boa has red strip on teh belly, do u now how he got it or what 2 do?"
The person isn't putting the amount of effort into the question that they want in the answer, in this world you get out what you put in.
On the other side, .... SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO SPELL FINE FOR THE MOST PART BUT THEY CANNOT FIND THE FRAKING CAPS LOCK KEY ON THE KEYBOARD SO EVERYTHING THEY TYPE IS EITHER INTERPRETED AS YELLING OR JUST PLAIN HARD TO READ, AND IN THIS CASE MAYBE IT'S A GIANT RUN ON SENTANCE....
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"hi me boa has red strip on teh belly, do u now how he got it or what 2 do?"
this to me wouldnt be seen as a person with poor typing skills but yets someone who uses english as a second language.
To me thats the biggest problem with reading typed/written text. it can be taken 100 different ways by the people reading it . and while none may be wrong there just interputations of the text before us .
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I dunno man, I find people who's second language is english make spelling errors typical to that as opposed to 'teenage lazy cybonics' or what have you.
'We breed albino male to hypo female and it lloks to set'
While off, this is the typical 2nd lanuguage sentance, they are quite obviously attempting to interpret their thoughts. Foriegn posters usually do a MUCH finer job of spelling than the lazy / illiterate / stubborn, whatever the description be of some of the heinous posts made.
I'm plenty guilty of my own errors etc, but gross negligence in your post composition and failing to achieve a middle school spelling level is just lazy.
NO illiteracy does not mean you should not have your questions adressed. However, I'm much more inclined to go after a question if someone puts the minimal effort of making it readable.
People shouldn't be supprised by that.
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it makes my noggin hurt to try to read paragraphs of text where all the sentences are jammed together without spacing. It takes the enjoyment out of reading (for me). When I click on a thread like this, a lot of times I don't even read it, because deciphering all that text run together makes my eyes cross. Is two spaces between sentences too much effort?
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Somehow you have learned how to criticize gently, without hurting people's feelings. I admire that, I am quite a critic, but lacking in tact, and therefore not as effective as I otherwise might be.
Oh, and your GHOST BOAS ARE TO DIE FOR!!!!
Yes, I am yelling that.
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"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away"
I couldn’t agree more. No one is above reproach when it comes to spelling and grammar. Even one of the posters who refers him to a dictionary spelt “a lot”, as one word.
By the way, he didn’t spell “behaviour” incorrectly. Behaviour like colour is frequently spelt with a “u” in non-US countries. Think outside your borders before you critique another posters conversation ability.
For your reference:
The Association for the Study of Animal Behaviour http://www.societies.ncl.ac.uk/asab/
Behaviour: The International Journal of Behavioural Biology http://www.vsppub.com/journals/jn-Beh.html
European Brain and Behaviour Society http://www.ebbs-science.org/
The Association of Pet Behaviour Councillors http://www.apbc.org.uk/
Journal of Behaviour and Informational Technology http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/titles/0144929X.asp
Eric,
The reason that this seems so prevalent here in this type of forum, not just here on Kingsnake but on Forums all, over is simple.
1) Many people who spend much time on internet forums tend to forget about the person on the other side of the screen that they are responding to. The may not have any idea that they do not use English as their main language (they may not live in Miami) or they may not know that the person asking the question may have a learning disability such as dyslexia.
2) Another reason is that many “small minded” or those with limited intelligence of their may feel more intelligent by publicly making fun of others. Similar to the school yard bully who is acting out due to an inferiority complex, the internet bullies are doing the same, only in a sadder more pathetic manner because they normally would not have the courage to behave the same way face to face
So basically it either because they are insensitive to the differences of others, or the have their own issues that they can not deal with and put others down to make themselves feel better in their sad little world.
Sorry but the argument that, because you can not read or write well you can not care for an animal, is also a narrow small minded view. A person who did not receive an education for reasons beyond their control, does not make that person less capable the those that do, the fact that they are willing to post their question and subject themselves to the blatant humiliation heaped upon them by these “Grammar Police” is a testament to their willingness to put forth their animals well being before their own.
Thanks for reading
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Your point is astute, and I agree, even though I have been guilty of being overly critical of people who misspell and mis-compose.
I think you bring up and interesting point: Language skills, vs. Husbandry Skills - Do they correlate?
My answer is no.
Example: Peter Kahl's website is riddled with spelling and grammar errors, and I am sure there are not many people here willing to criticize his husbandry skills.
P.S. Peter, if you want a content editor for your site, my services are available for trade. hehe
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I too have been in a smug mood from time to time and took a cheap shot a someone's post, but to relate someones spelling ability to their ability to comprehand the need of an animal is in correct. A fancy degree (to me) simply means that you had it too easy in life and not join the real world until your late 20's or early thirties. I happened to have come from a very poor family growing up and joined the work force at 10. You can't do that any more LOL, law won't allow it but it did happen to many.
Thanks
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Old School Right Hoppy !!
Good `ole boot in the grammer fixed alot of things back in the day.I struggle with that 25-35 age group regularly.A new breed no doubt
scary to think where their alledged educated selfs are heading ?
You want a perfect world MAKE ONE !
Alot of good people in this world could never afford Hooked On Phonics,so step down from your lofty postions of Judgement fore someone puts a boot in your grammer !
Insecure bunch a *&&^&^^%$$#$$#^%#^$#@#@!#@!%#@%*& !!!!!
>>I too have been in a smug mood from time to time and took a cheap shot a someone's post, but to relate someones spelling ability to their ability to comprehand the need of an animal is in correct. A fancy degree (to me) simply means that you had it too easy in life and not join the real world until your late 20's or early thirties. I happened to have come from a very poor family growing up and joined the work force at 10. You can't do that any more LOL, law won't allow it but it did happen to many.
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Money Only Wished It Had The Control Over The World That FEAR Does !
It is ridiculous to think that one had it TOO easy in life if one has a "fancy degree." I have a "fancy degree" AND it's from a from a private university. Guess what. I worked while I was in college. I paid my rent, I paid my truck payment. I also played basketball. I also have student loans. I had it easy. I understand that you certainly did not if you had to begin working at the age of ten, but that doesn't mean everyone that has a degree had it too easy.
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Guess What? I got a fever...and the only prescription is more cowbell!
gotta agree with scotty...jim, "fancy degree=having it easy"?? lmao, i think NOT!
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I too have a degree and BS I finished it when I was 32 while working two jobs, raising two kids and working my butt off, but I don't consider it to be a "fancy degree" once you start working towards post graduate work or for that matter, have the benifit of family support to aford your education, you are obviously from a fairly well off family and unless you have ever been to the other side of the tracks yourself, then there is no need for you (and I do not mean you personally, but you in the generic sense of the word) to pass judgement on those less fortunate.
If you main concern while attending school was making rent and the truck payments, then you are better off then those who are worring about feeding their families and or themselves. "back in the day" the truck would have been a luxury not a required need and too many it still is. That is all I am saying. If you had the ability to become educated be thankful for it and don't look down on those who are less fortunate!
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
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"A fancy degree (to me) simply means that you had it too easy in life and not join the real world until your late 20's or early thirties."
Thats a joke, right? I agreed with you until you brought this 'small-minded' statement into your rant. From this I can guess that you belief that physical labor is much more difficult than mental labor, which is rediculous.
Anyway, I shouldn't have stuck my beek in here, since this has nothing to do with boas and this post will solve nothing. Does anyone have any pictures of some adult hypos? I'd love to see them. Thanks.
BTW: I have a couple 'fancy' degrees and have also had a job (sometimes two simultaneously) since I was 13 years old. I believe that I know both sides of the fence.
Axl is his name. I dig this guy!
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k here's another
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That wouldn't be as in W. Axl Rose would it? If so, "Cars are crashin ev'ry night. I drink and drive ev'rything's in sight. I make the fire but I miss the firefight. I hit the bull's eye ev'ry night." Sorry. I couldn't resist.
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Guess What? I got a fever...and the only prescription is more cowbell!
Rock on! I grew up with that stuff in the late 80's early 90's and have a hard place in my heart for all Hard Rock/Metal from that era. GnR was really a great band. Mostly I listen to jazz now...in my old age.
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“From this I can guess that you belief that physical labor is much more difficult than mental labor, which is rediculous.”
Mental Labor now there is an oxymoron. I have been on both sides of this coin working as a construction laborer vs. working as Office personal I would have to go with the office personal as the much easier work, in fact I would have to say that it is dull and mundane to say the least. The paper cut vs. all over body ache argument is one that would be argued by someone who has never done the physical labor. There is a reason why we don’t all go to school to become ditch diggers… because it is demanding difficult physical work and nobody wants to do that forever, the body just can’t take it, now sitting behind a desk, working the books, preparing the legal briefs, or reviewing a patience’s medical records can go on as long as the mind is still sharp. They may have their own stressors to deal with, but those stressors come with one’s choosing profession. Imagine the stress of not having that choice!
By the way you spelt ridiculous wrong LOL
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Jim Hopkins "Hoppy"
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Many of you who went on your diatribes concerning American schooling, laziness etc. overlooked the fact that the original poster was Dutch. Hmm English as a second language, go figure that his spelling may not be up to your high standards. It may be that it's not even his second language. He probably learned Belgian, French and German before he learned English. My Dutch friend, Clara, speaks 7 languages fluently but can't read or write any of them well, except her native Dutch.
Alan pointed out that he is a hunt and peck typist, kind of hard to hunt and peck and watch the screen at the same time. He also has a business to run and is very kind in taking time away to come on here to help. So, he should take even more time to be certain that his spelling and grammar are correct???
Hoppy brings up an excellent point concerning learning disabilities. My wife is horribly dyslexic and won't even go near the computer any more. There have been too many situations where her feelings were hurt by ridicule from "holier than thou" types, who never took into consideration the possibility of a learning disability but called her stupid instead of helping. She's far from stupid or lazy, in fact she's quite brilliant and it's a testimony to her intestinal fortitude as she has to work very hard to learn. Let's see you try to learn when sentences look like this (Ltes see yuo tyr ot lrnea wenh sneentsces loko lkei tish.) I have to read her writing and this is typical of some of the mistakes she makes. It looks correct to her. She is a high school graduate, AB average, her family was too poor for her to seek higher education. She wouldn't have been able to pass an entrance exam or take SAT or ACT tests as they are timed and she wouldn't have been able to decipher the test to complete it.
If you can read, write and spell well be thankful. Show some compassion and consideration for those less fortunate who are still seeking knowledge. The reason most posters come to these forums is exactly that, they are trying to learn. You can help them, you can ignore them if it's too bothersome to read or you can show how shallow you really are and ridicule them for trying to learn. Keep in mind if you ridicule be certain that your grammer[sic] an[sic] spellign[sic] are correct or you might get knocked off your ivory tower.
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Hope this helps.
BigT
There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. The ignorant can be taught, stupidity is beyond our control.
Actually this post kind of blew my mind away with the feed back I got,It definatley wasn't expected!WQhen I sat down as I do everyday an started writing it,I got angrier as I wrote!Everyone has made alot of good points!I think one of the biggest points that was made in this post is one that Hoppy started!An that was people with disabilities!An how some of these flame throwers can hurt their feelings so bad that they don't even want to get back on the computer as big tattoo mentioned!I myself am disabled an sometimes I get confused an I reeally get frustrated,oh heck I get very angry,Ill be honest!At things I am trying to learn or don't quite understand!My wife for example is one that dont like to get on the computer,because of flaming!She is an epileptic,How would any of us like to forget everything we learnt just because we had a seizure?Do you know how bad it hurt for her to come out of one of these an look at me an say"WHO ARE YOU!"Whoa that was hard!But with time,things are not forgotten,I couldnt begin to imagine how hard it was for her in school!Sadley to say she had to drop out because of it!An it wasnt the learning problem that caused her to drop out!It was the ridicule!Well anyways thanks to all for posting!Eric[Hypoboa]
I haven't read all the posts on this thread, but I have read a number of them. For me it is a matter of laziness. If you aren't willing to write intelligent, or at least legible, sentences - why should I think you're going to put any more effort into caring for an animal? No, that may not be a fair assessment, but that is how I view it. It isn't a matter of education...there is no reason for anyone to have substandard communication capabilities when school is mandatory and free to the public. Barring learning disabilities, there is no reason the average student can't learn and excel. It usually comes down to sheer laziness on their part. I don't have a college education, just a highschool diploma. However I tend to speak and write better than many of the college graduates I know. It doesn't make me better than they are, just more dedicated to making sure I can be easily understood.
As for higher education (i.e. college degrees), I don't think it's fair to those people to put them down or make insinuations because they were fortunate enough to get a degree. It isn't a matter of who had a better upbringing or more money...college is a matter of time and opportunity. Some of us either didn't have the money, time or opportunity to attend...but I hardly have anything against those who have - providing they've made good use of the chance.
And lastly, in regards to the IM abbreviations so prevalent on the forums, it again comes down to laziness. Yes, many of us use LOL or IMHO and a handfull of other common Net abbreviations. However most of us are willing to put in the effort to spell most of our words out to be sure we are understood by those reading our questions and comments - especially on forums where the subject matter is more than idle chat. Because many people do it, it doesn't make it right. If anyone thinks you'll get far in life by slang speak and broken english, they're sadly mistaken. Dispite the more liberal attitudes towards speach these days, most businesses won't hire someone who can't at least speak and write within the established standards of the language. Why should we accept less than the standard just because it's the internet?
Raven
